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re: Alabama fetal homicide Supreme Court ruling could blow Roe V Wade wide open

Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by jbond
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2012
4953 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:26 pm to
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Alabama Supreme Court upheld the state’s fetal homicide law in a ruling this month, one of the justices said the decision should force the U.S. Supreme Court to revisit its 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling

Stopped reading here. Sounds like the state of Alabama has issues with their state laws. The supreme Court isn't going to overturn a ruling because some states have homicide laws inconsistent with it.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:27 pm to
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I never understood how if someone murders a pregnant woman, they are charged with double homicide; but that same woman can murder her own child, and it is legal. I don't think you can have one and not the other.



That's easy. Not all homicides are illegal. It's perfectly reasonable to say "yes of course a fetus is a baby and thus a human with rights" while at the same time saying "abortion is just one of many instances in which homicide isn't illegal"

The problem for liberals is that they NEVER argue from a point of facts and logic, instead preferring emotion so now they would have to change 40 years of argument to make that logical argument.

Of course if they now do change their argument from "a fetus isn't a baby" to what I described above, they have no fricking principles so they won't feel any shame in the blatant hypocrisy.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
33887 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:31 pm to
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That's easy. Not all homicides are illegal. It's perfectly reasonable to say "yes of course a fetus is a baby and thus a human with rights" while at the same time saying "abortion is just one of many instances in which homicide isn't illegal"

Except that it doesn't fall under any of the circumstances in which homicide is legal.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11546 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:31 pm to
I am waiting on the Conservatives to tell everyone how we plan to pay for all the new Democrat babies being born that would otherwise be killed.

We will most likely have more crime, more people dependent on the government, worse public schools (yes that is possible) and on and on.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:33 pm to
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Except that it doesn't fall under any of the circumstances in which homicide is legal.


Of course it doesn't stupid. That was the entire gist of my post. Liberals fought the wrong fight and would have to change positions drastically .

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:35 pm to
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More than likely will do away with the fetal homicide laws than doing any harm to abortion in any way...

Which, honestly, it should.

I mean, I don't support abortion.........but it's just asinine that you could kill a woman on her way to getting an abortion and suddenly, YOU'RE a double murderer!!
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27996 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:35 pm to
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we plan to pay for all the new Democrat babies being born that would otherwise be killed.


Well, if we cut off all the illegal immigration and anchor babies then we can more than afford to pay for babies NOT TO BE OTHERWISE KILLED...

Why do you want to kill babies so bad?
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:39 pm to
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One is a choice and one isn't


And the winner of the gold medal in mental gymnastics goes to....
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18518 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:44 pm to
If Alabama gets Roe overturned, I will forgive you for the Roy Moore debacle.

Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:48 pm to
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If Alabama gets Roe overturned, I will forgive you for the Roy Moore debacle.


Why on God's green Earth do supposed conservatives continuously argue that it should be illegal for stupid liberals to kill their stupid fetuses which will almost assuredly turn into stupid adults?

If anything, we should be requiring liberals to get abortions.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
59503 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:50 pm to
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Justice Tom Parker said it is a “logical fallacy” for the government to consider a fetus a life for the purposes of a murder conviction but not when it comes to a woman deciding to end her pregnancy.


It's always been a logical fallacy and no one can explain the rational.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18518 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:51 pm to
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Why on God's green Earth do supposed conservatives continuously argue that it should be illegal for stupid liberals to kill their stupid fetuses which will almost assuredly turn into stupid adults?

If anything, we should be requiring liberals to get abortions.


Because some of us believe that protecting human life is more important than politics.

Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
33887 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:52 pm to
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Of course it doesn't stupid.

Your post was stupid because they can't change positions because it's not a justifiable homicide, stupid.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 1:59 pm to
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We will most likely have more crime, more people dependent on the government, worse public schools (yes that is possible) and on and on.
We should start putting those dragging these things down to death now. I'll wait for you to link to me you advocating killing those that are causing public schools to struggle. Otherwise, your point lacks logical consistency.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 2:00 pm
Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
1807 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:16 am to
Let's get this straight. You guys are all gung ho for preventing each and every abortion, but you want to napalm 5,000 mostly women and children seeking asylum in the United States?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
71390 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:17 am to
I don't want to drop the napalm ON them, just a couple hundred yards in front of them

WALL OF FIRE!
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
54026 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:30 am to
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One is a choice and one isn't



Nope... It can not work that way. Either it's a life taken or not. Either it's a life or not.

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