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Bill Mitchell discusses early voting results

Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:30 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:30 pm
LINK

Dude is legit and made Harry Enten and Nate Silver look like cucks in 2016 - the early vote talk begins at 13:50 or so

This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 9:41 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:32 pm to
Nate plastic is a fraud.

He was only good during Obama's campaigns because he was fed inside information. Since then he sucks.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:36 pm to
There's absolutely no other way to interpret the early voting metrics as anything but extremely positive for Republicans.

The only way Democrats win any of the competitive races is if:

A. The Early Vote stat analysis is just completely f'ed up and wrong.

or

B. Independents are voting overwhelmingly Democrats (which historically never happens, Independents tend to break Republican slightly to majorly)

So yeah, I'm not celebrating until about a week from now, until then I'll be cautiously optimistic.
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
12570 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:40 pm to
Tru Dat. Nate Aluminum is doueche.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40947 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:46 pm to
I can't be optimistic.

Midterms are almost always a mess for the party in power and there has never been a 24/7 negative news onslaught from the MSM like the last 2 years.

It is hard to sell their bile when the economy is moving along and almost anyone who wants a job can find one.

I just worry that contented folks are sometimes too apathetic to vote and the liberal rage is stronger today than it was on election night.

I hope I'm wrong but liberals made the same mistake when Obama swept into office. Nonstop glee and people saying the conservative party was dead. Then just 2 years later, liberals get crushed.

Happy folks forget why they are happy and skip voting. Hope it doesn't happen, but I will be shocked if it doesn't.
Posted by MirrorLake
Birmingham
Member since Oct 2018
28 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:49 pm to
Kavanaugh spectacle awakened a sleeping giant.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77843 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:57 pm to
Who is this guy? He seems like a phony.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

Who is this guy? He seems like a phony

Everything Bill Mitchell says and uses as his evidence for his claims in this video he did the exact same thing in 2016 and told us that Trump was going to win and exactly why. And he was amazingly accurate and right about it all.

Not only that, but he got the Electoral College numbers almost perfect too, and even told us Trump was going to win the Rust Belt states.

He knew there was a silent Trump voter, and he broke down how the polls were/are so abnormally skewed in their sampling and why they're wrong.

He knows his shite and has been around a long while. He's definitely not a phony.
This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 10:47 pm
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:45 pm to
Well that's why I'm not doing cartwheels just yet.

The historical tide is against the party holding the White House in the first midterm for sure.

Trump has been playing by a different set of rules though, so hopefully that holds true this time as well.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:47 pm to
Someone put together the 2016 early voting results so we can compare the two.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:55 pm to
Compared to 2014 (the last midterm) Democrats are doing better than they did (but they were trounced that election)

Compared to 2016 Republicans are doing better than they did (although that was a Presidential year).

Early voting is growing in popularity each cycle and it's just hard to find a good comparison for this election to recent ones.
This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 10:56 pm
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:58 pm to
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Nate plastic is a fraud.

He was only good during Obama's campaigns because he was fed inside information. Since then he sucks.



Lol
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

The historical tide is against the party holding the White House in the first midterm for sure.


quote:

Trump has been playing by a different set of rules though, so hopefully that holds true this time as well.



Yes things are definitely different now, using history told us Trump could not be president, but everything reset on election night 2016, and we are in totally uncharted waters.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7445 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:05 pm to
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Tru Dat. Nate Aluminum is doueche


The guy is a major douche but he was not wrong in 2016.

His numbers said Trump had 1 chance in 3. That's an underdog but odds much longer than 1 in 3 hit every day in every facet of life.

In every simulation he ran Trump won 33 of every 100 elections. By his numbers Trump had a decent shot to win which of course he did.

Silver is unfairly lumped in with the morons saying Hillary was 98% to win. Silver never made any such claim.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56112 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

I hope I'm wrong


In voting for the last 46 years and never remembering a more enthused midterm election, I do think you are wrong.
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6849 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

Silver never made any such claim.
Didn't he call the election for HRC around 4:30 PST / 7:30 EST - assuming Florida was a done deal?
Posted by ChexMix
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Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

there has never been a 24/7 negative news onslaught from the MSM like the last 2 years.
There also hasnt been a coup like what was attempted by the Democrats either. this negative onslaught cuts both ways. Reps are more energized than ever and anyone who voted for Trump, will be voting for Trump in the mid terms.

eta: and those that were on the fence are now firmly entrenched in Trumps camp. And those blacks that now woke, will either be voting Red or staying home.

Trump holds house and gains in Senate. America profits
This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 11:16 pm
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
22715 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:18 pm to
quote:


I can't be optimistic.

Midterms are almost always a mess for the party in power and there has never been a 24/7 negative news onslaught from the MSM like the last 2 years.


I am cautiously optimistic.

The midterm trend being a mess for the party in power may generally be true, but the last Presidential election threw everything off. None of the "normal" measurements worked. I think it will be the same for these mid-terms. Trump has done very well. The Democrats have melted beyond expectations and have had terrible optics. The Republicans are still fired up for their side; the Democrats for theirs. I think the independents are going to come out more on the Republican side.

It's going to be a fun night, I believe. I hope DU crashes again, both figuratively and literally.

This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 11:20 pm
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56112 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:18 pm to
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His numbers said Trump had 1 chance in 3


Well he could have said Trump had a 1 in 100 chance and been right too according to that analogy. He went with the odds of Clinton winning for whatever reasons and his reasons were exposed as being dismally wrong.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

Well he could have said Trump had a 1 in 100 chance and been right too according to that analogy. He went with the odds of Clinton winning for whatever reasons and his reasons were exposed as being dismally wrong


He didn’t do anything. His formula said trump had basically a one out of 3 chance.

His reasons weren’t exposed. Lol
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