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OLine Misconception
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:24 pm
After watching the game, my rash opinion was that our OLine was doomed. 36 hours later, I've backed off of that belief. We had the ball for 9 minutes in the second half. 13 runs. 3 Passes. 3 Punts. 1 score. We opened up the 3rd quarter with four straight running plays, and a pass finally came in an obvious passing situation (2nd and 25). Joe threw it 3 times in the entire second half, and 2 other passing plays were called that Burrow scrambled for a few yards. We have been the more physical team in two games out of two this season, and I'd be hard pressed to see that change.
Could the Offensive Line have played better? Absolutely. By no means were they perfect, but they did not play nearly as bad as everyone has led on. They need to play better next week and I am confident that they will. We need to be better on Third Down if anything, and Joe needs to have a heightened pocket presence.
Aranda's defense will keep us in this game. Auburn will get a few big plays over the top and I imagine Malzahn will utilize the screen game when Dave gets too aggressive. Hopefully the front 7 will be as dominate as they have been to start the season so that we don't have to get that desperate in delivering pressure from the secondary.
This is a good football team, and America, along with the rest of this board, will figure that out come Saturday.
Could the Offensive Line have played better? Absolutely. By no means were they perfect, but they did not play nearly as bad as everyone has led on. They need to play better next week and I am confident that they will. We need to be better on Third Down if anything, and Joe needs to have a heightened pocket presence.
Aranda's defense will keep us in this game. Auburn will get a few big plays over the top and I imagine Malzahn will utilize the screen game when Dave gets too aggressive. Hopefully the front 7 will be as dominate as they have been to start the season so that we don't have to get that desperate in delivering pressure from the secondary.
This is a good football team, and America, along with the rest of this board, will figure that out come Saturday.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 2:59 pm
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:27 pm to weblos5
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Could the Offensive Line played better? Absolutely. By no means were they perfect, but they did not play nearly as bad as everyone has led on.
What?
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Now it makes sense
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:29 pm to weblos5
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We had the ball for 9 minutes in the second half. 13 runs. 3 Passes. 3 Punts. 1 score. We opened up the 3rd quarter with four straight running plays, and a pass finally came in an obvious passing situation (2nd and 25). Joe threw it 3 times in the entire second half, and 2 other passing plays were called that Burrow scrambled for a few yards.
Man, this sounds way to familiar! Like MILES/CAM familiar.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:32 pm to bstew3006
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Like MILES/CAM familiar.
Miles/Cam would have had more than 9 minutes in the second half of a game against SELA.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:34 pm to bstew3006
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Man, this sounds way to familiar! Like MILES/CAM familiar.
We rarely had time of possession issues with Les. And we usually threw for more than 3 yards in a half.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:36 pm to weblos5
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By no means were they perfect, but they did not play nearly as bad as everyone has led on.
You need to go back and watch that shitshow again. I’m not one to bash players but it’s obvious that a big part of the problem with our offense is our OLine either missing assignments, getting penalized, or just straight up getting beat. The throw where they have to look to see if Joe fumbled or passed the ball as he was getting hit, the DE who hit him was able to make the right tackle look like a fool AND HE HAD THE RB HELPING HIM PASS BLOCK. There’s no cohesiveness at all. It’s a clusterfrick. The Miami game wasn’t that much better.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:37 pm to weblos5
Ponamski alter #1269
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:37 pm to weblos5
Not to mention the fact that Burrow held on to the ball way too long on many plays. I'd rather him give the receivers a shot than take those sacks. Not sure if it was a lack of going through progressions or receivers not being open.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:38 pm to weblos5
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We had the ball for 9 minutes in the second half.
Which means the defense was on the field for 21 minutes in the 2nds half. Agains SLU that may not be a big deal. Against any SEC opponent on the schedule the defense will break down and be gashed. Plays may get hurt.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:38 pm to LSUMurple
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Not sure if it was a lack of going through progressions or receivers not being open.
Pretty easy to progress through 2 receivers. Pretty hard to get open as one of 2 receivers when there are 4 or more defenders covering.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:41 pm to Ace Midnight
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Miles/Cam would have had more than 9 minutes in the second half of a game against SELA.
I wasn't posting about TOP! run pass ratio, bud
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:43 pm to weblos5
Traore was the only OL I saw that struggled all game long. Brumfield got worked by Willis against Miami last week but the interior of the OL hasn’t been bad. Deculus didn’t look bad at LT filling in for Charles, I think we should start him at RT against Auburn. He can’t be any worse than Traore. Magee getting hurt has killed us at RT. Traore looks like he wears concrete shoes and reaches out and bends at the waist bad!
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:43 pm to bstew3006
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I wasn't posting about TOP! run pass ratio, bud
Fair enough, but if you're gaining ground, you do run the ball with a big lead, right? Yes or no?
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:48 pm to Ace Midnight
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Fair enough, but if you're gaining ground, you do run the ball with a big lead, right? Yes or no?
You run your offense! Once you get late in the ball game (mid 4th qtr), you run run run to end the game. But 13 runs to 3 passes is ridiculous!
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:48 pm to LSUMurple
Well when you have only 2 wide receivers on the field and 2 tight ends in for max protect 2 wide outs again 4 dbs who’s gonna win don’t have time for them to get open need more options to throw to we are being told the wide receivers are the strength of the team but yet are not being use like it is it’s terrible schematically!
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:55 pm to LSUMurple
Haven't posted in awhile. Usually too busy at work to post. At the start of the year I was pessimistic and still am to a degree. The U game has me more positive.
The OL hasn't looked good. Especially against SLU. They should've dominated the LoS. They actually looked better against UM I think.
OL- Play calling needs to help these guys out.
Burrow - big accurate arm. Holds ball too long at times.
Running the ball:
I think this will expand greatly for Auburn. The play book hasn't opened up. At least I hope. Everybody knows that our first option is up the middle and Auburn will shut it down with this OL. Mix in sweeps and pitches.
Passing game:
I think the OL and Burrow need more quick timing routes, quick slants, hooks, get the TE involved. For 2 years we've seen either run the ball and then have a 20+ yd pass. I think Burrow is much better at this than Etling but get the ball into the WR's hands quick and let them do their thing in a one on one situation.
Anyway, I'm hoping the playbook has been limited to this point and it will get opened up against Auburn. I have a feeling this might not be the case because we seem to get really conservative in these big games.
The OL hasn't looked good. Especially against SLU. They should've dominated the LoS. They actually looked better against UM I think.
OL- Play calling needs to help these guys out.
Burrow - big accurate arm. Holds ball too long at times.
Running the ball:
I think this will expand greatly for Auburn. The play book hasn't opened up. At least I hope. Everybody knows that our first option is up the middle and Auburn will shut it down with this OL. Mix in sweeps and pitches.
Passing game:
I think the OL and Burrow need more quick timing routes, quick slants, hooks, get the TE involved. For 2 years we've seen either run the ball and then have a 20+ yd pass. I think Burrow is much better at this than Etling but get the ball into the WR's hands quick and let them do their thing in a one on one situation.
Anyway, I'm hoping the playbook has been limited to this point and it will get opened up against Auburn. I have a feeling this might not be the case because we seem to get really conservative in these big games.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 3:02 pm to bstew3006
Which is why I agree with T-Bob when he said it's the scheme not the players. I do believe we have upgraded in talent over the years, especially at the physical positions (Line of Scrimmage). We didn't look terrible in the second half because of our players, it was what we tried to do on offense.
We've done on offense "what works" against two teams that we have been better than. It's not pretty, but it's worked. There's no reason to believe that Ensminger thinks running the ball 80% of the time against Auburn will work.
We've done on offense "what works" against two teams that we have been better than. It's not pretty, but it's worked. There's no reason to believe that Ensminger thinks running the ball 80% of the time against Auburn will work.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 3:09 pm to JOJO Hammer
You're not wrong, but SELU was 5/6 on 4th down. All of those attempts were in the 2nd half. That made it interesting (for them). As a counterpoint, them being on the field longer just increased the inevitable: turnovers. The Lions had 2 in the second half, on drives that were sustained after 4th down conversions.
And while going for it on 4th isn't uncommon, going for it 6 times and getting it 5 is. We should have had at least 4 more possessions, and that's with a +3 turnover margin
And while going for it on 4th isn't uncommon, going for it 6 times and getting it 5 is. We should have had at least 4 more possessions, and that's with a +3 turnover margin
Posted on 9/10/18 at 3:20 pm to weblos5
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This is a good football team, and America, along with the rest of this board, will figure that out come Saturday.
Oh , how i want this. However , if LSU doesn't improve in every aspect i think they will geet beat 20 points. who knows, they may be improved in every aspect , & win the game. Let's hope for that improvement
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