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LOST Crackpot Thread: The Aftermath
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:31 pm
OK, we have a good idea how the world reacted to the Oceanic Six. My question isn't about that, but it's more how the world's reaction would be once Ajira Flight 316 disappeared with the members of the Oceanic Six on board. It would go down as the greatest conspiracy theory of all time instantly, and then kick into overdrive 2 weeks later when Ajira Flight 316 returns to the mainland with only 2 people from the original flight, 2 people from the original 815 flight, and then 2 people no one has any idea about. It would be on par or higher than the OJ Simpson case (which it's implied Kate's initial trial was that big anyway). So let's first dissect it by flights
815
1) Jack- First off Jack was partaking in some highly suspicious behavior before 316. He was taking repeated flights across the ocean on Oceanic's dime. Jack then eventually tries to kill himself, which leads to a car crash of a person he saves and takes credit for (this is later refuted by the press at large). Then Jack goes to a funeral where the body is stolen that very night, and it is then brought to light that he checked a coffin onto the Ajira flight, and it's actually the second coffin he checked after the Oceanic Flight. Jack does not return, but is largely agreed upon to be a major mastermind behind the Oceanic Conspiracy.
2) Kate- More on her in the 316 section, since she was the only one to return.
3) Hurley- Next to Kate, Hurley would be the most highly evaluated member of the Oceanic 6 when it comes to the conspiracy. He's the only one people think may have had a conscience throughout this conspiracy. Hurley's past mental state would be highly evaluated, and especially if he had any contact with Jack prior to Oceanic 815, due to them living in the same city and a doctor/patient conspiracy. Hurley's financial situation will be important in this, with many people thinking Jack, Sayid, or someone higher than themselves extorted him for the cash they needed. On top of all this, Hurley bought out all the remaining tickets on Ajira 316 to make sure no one else boarded, which confirms to many they knew what was going on, and Hurley is the only member of that flight with any moral fiber. People all agree he was mentally unstable and exploited by others.
4) Sayid- Sayid will be looked at as the most monstrous of the Oceanic Six. Conspiracy theories will be abound that he hijacked both flights (at least until Ajira 316 returns) and he was the personal enforcer for the conspiracy. It will go so far as to claim he murdered Nadia herself and most the passengers that didn't return. Iliana's relation to him will be heavily analyzed, but most investigators will agree that Sayid murdered the people Hurley was blamed for killing. Sayid's legacy will only be that of a monster
5) Sun- Sun will be one of the more perplexing of the Oceanic Six, and will always be a thorn in the side for her father. Yes, Sun's father is rich, but through massive audits, they have to conclude that Sun's father had nothing to do with the Oceanic Conspiracy. Unfortunately for him though, they do find out he's a violent mobster and spends the rest of his life in prison. What Jin is up to in the conspiracy is a huge mystery since they are also able to confirm that Ji Yeon is Jin's child. The fact that Sun kept very distant from the rest of the Oceanic Six is also a source of conflict. There are mostly dead ends in investigations that come to Sun and Jin, making it frustrating for the world at large.
6) Aaron- just a baby of Claire and Kate. Although pivotal, he has little to do with the investigation besides DNA tests.
316
1) Sawyer- Sawyer returning would bring mass scrutiny. The fact that he's a convicted conman works against him, but also his former girlfriend has a close relationship with Kate, both before and after 815 crashed. Sawyer would be brought in for intense questioning in all this for his relationship to Kate and the only sane person to return for 815 through 316. The Feds aren't able to prove anything though, and Sawyer goes on to write stories of adventures on the Island.
2) Claire- the government doesn't really prosecute or go after Claire, aside from trying to have her tell them that Kate stole Aaron. It's largely seen as an international tragedy how Claire turned out, and it would make people more blood thirsty to get Kate.
3) Lapidus- Lapidus' background is going to make people shite their pants since he was originally supposed to be the pilot to Oceanic 815 and was dear friends with the pilot of 815. Then he flies the second flight and flies it back. He will be a very popular person in the conspiracy, although most won't have a clue on how to fit him into it.
4) Miles- The fact that he was there will perplex people. Can't really know what would happen to him.
5) Richard- Richard was much older than everyone. I think he'd have some sources to disappear though.
6) Kate- the final member and would eventually become the most famous person on the planet. Her first trial was as big as OJ Simpson's, but her second trial would be even larger to where everyone in the world from India to Chile would be obsessed with it. The others (unless they're able to dig up some old stuff of Sawyer's) won't be put on trial, but Kate will be simply for violating her parole and they will use this to bring other charges forward, like mass murder, kidnapping, and just about anything in between. Her conviction would in the least lead to Sawyer being convicted as well for a few crimes. Claire doesn't testify against her, but it's kind of moot since she's now certifiably insane. In the end, they can't conclusively prove anything against her besides violating her parole, so she gets 15 years in prison for that. Hurley then picks her up after jail and takes her to the Island, the only place she can remotely be at peace, where she eventually dies.
So, how do you think the public at large would react to all this?
815
1) Jack- First off Jack was partaking in some highly suspicious behavior before 316. He was taking repeated flights across the ocean on Oceanic's dime. Jack then eventually tries to kill himself, which leads to a car crash of a person he saves and takes credit for (this is later refuted by the press at large). Then Jack goes to a funeral where the body is stolen that very night, and it is then brought to light that he checked a coffin onto the Ajira flight, and it's actually the second coffin he checked after the Oceanic Flight. Jack does not return, but is largely agreed upon to be a major mastermind behind the Oceanic Conspiracy.
2) Kate- More on her in the 316 section, since she was the only one to return.
3) Hurley- Next to Kate, Hurley would be the most highly evaluated member of the Oceanic 6 when it comes to the conspiracy. He's the only one people think may have had a conscience throughout this conspiracy. Hurley's past mental state would be highly evaluated, and especially if he had any contact with Jack prior to Oceanic 815, due to them living in the same city and a doctor/patient conspiracy. Hurley's financial situation will be important in this, with many people thinking Jack, Sayid, or someone higher than themselves extorted him for the cash they needed. On top of all this, Hurley bought out all the remaining tickets on Ajira 316 to make sure no one else boarded, which confirms to many they knew what was going on, and Hurley is the only member of that flight with any moral fiber. People all agree he was mentally unstable and exploited by others.
4) Sayid- Sayid will be looked at as the most monstrous of the Oceanic Six. Conspiracy theories will be abound that he hijacked both flights (at least until Ajira 316 returns) and he was the personal enforcer for the conspiracy. It will go so far as to claim he murdered Nadia herself and most the passengers that didn't return. Iliana's relation to him will be heavily analyzed, but most investigators will agree that Sayid murdered the people Hurley was blamed for killing. Sayid's legacy will only be that of a monster
5) Sun- Sun will be one of the more perplexing of the Oceanic Six, and will always be a thorn in the side for her father. Yes, Sun's father is rich, but through massive audits, they have to conclude that Sun's father had nothing to do with the Oceanic Conspiracy. Unfortunately for him though, they do find out he's a violent mobster and spends the rest of his life in prison. What Jin is up to in the conspiracy is a huge mystery since they are also able to confirm that Ji Yeon is Jin's child. The fact that Sun kept very distant from the rest of the Oceanic Six is also a source of conflict. There are mostly dead ends in investigations that come to Sun and Jin, making it frustrating for the world at large.
6) Aaron- just a baby of Claire and Kate. Although pivotal, he has little to do with the investigation besides DNA tests.
316
1) Sawyer- Sawyer returning would bring mass scrutiny. The fact that he's a convicted conman works against him, but also his former girlfriend has a close relationship with Kate, both before and after 815 crashed. Sawyer would be brought in for intense questioning in all this for his relationship to Kate and the only sane person to return for 815 through 316. The Feds aren't able to prove anything though, and Sawyer goes on to write stories of adventures on the Island.
2) Claire- the government doesn't really prosecute or go after Claire, aside from trying to have her tell them that Kate stole Aaron. It's largely seen as an international tragedy how Claire turned out, and it would make people more blood thirsty to get Kate.
3) Lapidus- Lapidus' background is going to make people shite their pants since he was originally supposed to be the pilot to Oceanic 815 and was dear friends with the pilot of 815. Then he flies the second flight and flies it back. He will be a very popular person in the conspiracy, although most won't have a clue on how to fit him into it.
4) Miles- The fact that he was there will perplex people. Can't really know what would happen to him.
5) Richard- Richard was much older than everyone. I think he'd have some sources to disappear though.
6) Kate- the final member and would eventually become the most famous person on the planet. Her first trial was as big as OJ Simpson's, but her second trial would be even larger to where everyone in the world from India to Chile would be obsessed with it. The others (unless they're able to dig up some old stuff of Sawyer's) won't be put on trial, but Kate will be simply for violating her parole and they will use this to bring other charges forward, like mass murder, kidnapping, and just about anything in between. Her conviction would in the least lead to Sawyer being convicted as well for a few crimes. Claire doesn't testify against her, but it's kind of moot since she's now certifiably insane. In the end, they can't conclusively prove anything against her besides violating her parole, so she gets 15 years in prison for that. Hurley then picks her up after jail and takes her to the Island, the only place she can remotely be at peace, where she eventually dies.
So, how do you think the public at large would react to all this?
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:36 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:
You need help.
Not from a Spoiler whore.
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:44 pm to OMLandshark
Either you have incredible recall for this show or you just did a rewatch. If you had asked a couple years ago I could have discussed this with you.
If you give me a couple weeks to rewatch I will argue with you all you want. Just let me know if you're in. Maybe we could recruit enough movie board posters to do a rewatch on a scheduled time line. That could be interesting.
If you give me a couple weeks to rewatch I will argue with you all you want. Just let me know if you're in. Maybe we could recruit enough movie board posters to do a rewatch on a scheduled time line. That could be interesting.
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:45 pm to OMLandshark
This post could've been condensed to two sentences
Posted on 9/6/18 at 10:06 pm to Sun God
Op's post is receiving down votes, but it's actually a pretty interesting question. He compares it to the OJ case, but I think it would be closer to the Dyatlov Pass incident.
It would be clear to the public something crazy is going on, but the theories would be all over the place.
It would be clear to the public something crazy is going on, but the theories would be all over the place.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 3:43 am to Ham Solo
I binged the entire series a year ago and already forgot most of what is written in the OP.
I wish this thread was started last year because I would have loved talking Lost conspiracies.
Unfortunately I have nothing to add now, but will enjoy the thread if it sticks.
I wish this thread was started last year because I would have loved talking Lost conspiracies.
Unfortunately I have nothing to add now, but will enjoy the thread if it sticks.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 6:22 am to OMLandshark
Interesting theory.
I think we need a script. Lets do it
I think we need a script. Lets do it
Posted on 9/7/18 at 6:27 am to OMLandshark
Holy wall of text... if I wanted to read a beak, I’d go to school.
Cliff notes?
Cliff notes?
Posted on 9/7/18 at 6:36 am to OMLandshark
Interesting take, well done...
Boy, some act like reading is a huge chore, really? No wonder our media, especially concerning poltics, use gotcha headlines. No one reads...lol
Boy, some act like reading is a huge chore, really? No wonder our media, especially concerning poltics, use gotcha headlines. No one reads...lol
Posted on 9/7/18 at 7:39 am to Lsut81
quote:
Cliff notes?
I don’t think there really can be for what I’m saying. I’m just saying how the public would perceive it and what would happen to the Ajira Six once they get off the Island. I guess the best cliff notes version is the world would lose its fricking mind on it and want to crucify Kate and to some extent Sawyer, with Kate eventually ending up back on the Island since she would have no where to run to, which I think would be an appropriate end to her character.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 8:02 am to Ham Solo
quote:
He compares it to the OJ case, but I think it would be closer to the Dyatlov Pass incident.
I had never heard of that, but it would be a mix between the two of them and times a thousand for the later incident. It’d be like 500 people dead, and you’ve got a very famous murderer at the very heart of it. Kate would almost unquestionably be the most famous woman on the planet after Ajira goes missing, and when you got that level of celebrity involved in it, I think it can be adequately compared to the OJ case with a much higher body count/missing people.
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