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re: Equality and women who dress like hoes in the workplace

Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:38 am to
Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:38 am to
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signaling is signaling



No it's not. Are you pretending there aren't gradations here?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:39 am to
Women who dress this way are the same as men who peacock around the office. Whether it's fair or not, people respect you less.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:39 am to
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There's a fine line between having a nice haircut and looking clean and classy vs wearing a spandex bodysuit to highlight my physique.



But from your OP...

quote:

Attractiveness only exists for sexuality.


Uh...sounds like that line isn't so fine.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:39 am to
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signaling is signaling


Depends on what you’re signaling.

IMO there’s a difference between looking “put together” for the sake of exuding professionalism/neatness and dressing with the intent of exuding sexual attractiveness.

Men and women can do both.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:40 am to
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Exactly. You stick a younger woman with a decent figure in pretty much any outfit, and it is deemed “sexy”... when a frumpy woman wearing the same outfit would be fine.

I don’t think it’s fair to expect someone to wear something baggy that doesn’t fit just because you think they look hot in their regular fitting work attire.





The problem is, is when a man tells the younger woman with a decent figure that she looks nice today, and completely ignores the fatty wearing the same outfit.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85251 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:40 am to
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I would imagine it's damn near impossible for a woman with curves to dress in a way that doesn't attract attention, unless she is wearing a burka.


Pants or a longer skirt/dress would be a good a good place to start.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:41 am to
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No it's not.


Of course it is.

quote:

Are you pretending there aren't gradations here?


Nope.

But the intent is all the same.





Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:42 am to
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But from your OP...

quote:
Attractiveness only exists for sexuality.


Uh...sounds like that line isn't so fine.


And I also said this
quote:

If you want true equality then we must account for gender differences. We all need to agree to dress the same and look the same at work, or at least try to get as close as possible.


My having a nice haircut and dry cleaned dress pants and shirt is something woman could do as well.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81259 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:42 am to
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Pants or a longer skirt/dress would be a good a good place to start.


I think his point was that if a woman is young and attractive, many men would consider pants or a longer dress too sexy if it isn’t completely baggy or frumpy.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6900 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:43 am to
Yeah, but I'm hiring girls like the one in the pic 9/10 times. It's a double edged sword
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:43 am to
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Nope.

But the intent is all the same.



And there are levels to it, so we should try to limit it as much as possible. If women follow that rule then we're making progress.

Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
83653 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:43 am to
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Depends on what you’re signaling.


I'll just use the OP's own quotes

quote:

I don't believe that sexuality can be separated from attractiveness, biologically speaking. Attractiveness only exists for sexuality. We can ask people to ignore it but this will always be true.


quote:

I want to look attractive
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3164 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:45 am to
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Pants or a longer skirt/dress would be a good a good place to start.


the only way they're going to not attract attention, is by dressing so poorly that Pecker is going to make a thread about them saying "Why do people show up to work in a professional environment in clothes that look terrible?"
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 6:59 am
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:45 am to
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I'll just use the OP's own quotes


Use this one too

quote:

f you want true equality then we must account for gender differences. We all need to agree to dress the same and look the same at work, or at least try to get as close as possible.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:45 am to
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Babes are babes. And the only way they're going to not attract attention, is by dressing so poorly that Pecker is going to make a thread about them saying "Why do people show up to work in a professional environment in clothes that look terrible?"



this
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:45 am to
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We all need to agree to dress the same and look the same at work, or at least try to get as close as possible.



Like flight attendants?

Posted by Man4others
Member since Aug 2017
2063 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:45 am to
I bet she is smart. She is using a Bloomberg terminal. That takes brains to operate.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48338 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:46 am to
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That women only have the option to wear provocative work attire.



Who is stopping you from wearing provocative clothing to work?

I think your real issue is that dressing provocatively won't benefit you like it does attractive women.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
66476 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:46 am to
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Like flight attendants?


1,2
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 11:47 am to
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Use this one too


Cool.

Come back when you agree to dress like Bob from IT with his oversived khakies and Sketchers
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