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re: Suicide attempt survivor is youngest face transplant recipient in U.S. history
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:28 am to go ta hell ole miss
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:28 am to go ta hell ole miss
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I am not trying to be critical, but what was the reason for performing a face transplant for a person that is suicidal?
I read something about Golden Gate Bridge jumpers that survived. The consensus was as soon as they jumped, they regretted it, had an epiphany so to speak.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:33 am to AUsteriskPride
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I read something about Golden Gate Bridge jumpers that survived. The consensus was as soon as they jumped, they regretted it, had an epiphany so to speak.
Here is a video of one guy who survived his suicidal jump from the golden gate bridge...and now realizes how precious life is. He has a book as well.
LINK
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:35 am to celltech1981
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maybe she isn't suicidal anymore? we should just ignore any of her needs since she once tried to kill herself, right?
I am not in disagreement. Why don’t we give liver transplants to alcoholics or lungs/heart transplants to smokers?
I’ll hang up and listen.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:38 am to Johnny3tears
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I would be really pissed if I tried to kill myself and woke up to my face all fricked up
Especially since it looked pretty amazing before.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:39 am to go ta hell ole miss
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Why don’t we give liver transplants to alcoholics or lungs/heart transplants to smokers?
Are you seriously trying to compare a single suicide attempt to life long addictions?
Also...former alcoholics can get a liver transplant. They have to meet certain criteria (specific amount of time of being sober, etc).
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:40 am to ArmyHogs
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She was gorgeous and could have had any guy she wanted. In my opinion, she will really hate her herself the rest of her life. I would've rather been successful in suicide.
What a stupid fricking post.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:44 am to East Coast Band
Our little town in TN has a girl just like this. It’s a really sad story, she was bullied online and shot herself in the face/head. For months people everywhere had blue bows tied to their trees and pictures of this girl in their yards with the slogan “pray for Alyssa”. Well, she survived and she’s blind and horribly disfigured. Her parents asked people to take down the pictures because they were a reminder of how beautiful she was.
At least she doesn’t remember any of what happened before she woke from a coma.
At least she doesn’t remember any of what happened before she woke from a coma.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:44 am to lsunurse
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Are you seriously trying to compare a single suicide attempt to life long addictions?
Nope. Was not trying to compare them at all. Am asking why there are restrictions for some and not others. Similar to dogs being euthanized out of sympathy, but not allowing humans to be euthanized.
Thoughts, Nurse? I actually respect your opinion on these things.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 5:09 am
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:44 am to When in Rome
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That’s awesome.
Yeah she will be able to have a huge impact as a counselor imo. I would imagine it could be a very fulfilling job for her, knowing that something good could come out of her experience.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:50 am to go ta hell ole miss
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I am not in disagreement. Why don’t we give liver transplants to alcoholics or lungs/heart transplants to smokers?
I’ll hang up and listen.
grandpa just fell and they won't give him a hip transplant because they think he is just going to fall again
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:52 am to celltech1981
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grandpa just fell and they won't give him a hip transplant because they think he is just going to fall again
Exactly. How do we as a society make a distinction?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:54 am to go ta hell ole miss
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Nope. Was not trying to compare them at all. Am asking why there are restrictions for some and not others.
Again...I would imagine that patient went through an extensive psych evaluation before they agreed to let her be a candidate. They know this will receive world wide attention. Last thing they want is the patient to attempt suicide again after receiving the transplant.
If they thought she was suicidal again..I'm pretty sure they would have rejected her as a transplant candidate...just like they would reject an alcoholic that wasn't in recovery, etc.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:57 am to East Coast Band
I had been waiting for this to make its way here.
My family have been friends with the Stubblefield's for nearly a decade. Katie was and is a very sweet girl who made an insanely stupid impulsive choice. It has been an incredible journey full of every emotion imaginable. We met them through school where her mother taught first grade. My wife volunteered to be her room mom the year my daughter was in her class. Katie went to the same school but was in a much higher grade (k-12 school). She and her sister would babysit my kids occasionally and was always very fun loving and upbeat.
Her suicide attempt could not have been foreseen by anyone as it was immediately after a breakup of her boyfriend.. She regrets that attempt every waking moment.
I always look for the positives in a negative and there are many here. Whether it be by bringing people closer or helping future victims of facial trauma find a better life, there is always a silver lining regardless of the situation.
Always.
My family have been friends with the Stubblefield's for nearly a decade. Katie was and is a very sweet girl who made an insanely stupid impulsive choice. It has been an incredible journey full of every emotion imaginable. We met them through school where her mother taught first grade. My wife volunteered to be her room mom the year my daughter was in her class. Katie went to the same school but was in a much higher grade (k-12 school). She and her sister would babysit my kids occasionally and was always very fun loving and upbeat.
Her suicide attempt could not have been foreseen by anyone as it was immediately after a breakup of her boyfriend.. She regrets that attempt every waking moment.
I always look for the positives in a negative and there are many here. Whether it be by bringing people closer or helping future victims of facial trauma find a better life, there is always a silver lining regardless of the situation.
Always.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:04 am to go ta hell ole miss
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How do we as a society make a distinction?
wouldn't what you are saying about alcoholics and drug abusers fall under therapeutic nihilism? doctors cover that in the Hippocratic oath.
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I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:10 am to go ta hell ole miss
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Why don’t we give liver transplants to alcoholics or lungs/heart transplants to smokers?
I imagine the overwhelming majority of teen suicide attempts are the result of impulsive reactions following some event(s)
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:11 am to CarRamrod
Looking at this presentation hurts. I feel for her, she was a beautiful young woman, and to be so distraught she thought killing herself was the only option is tough to hear. I feel for her family, and their sacrifices they have made.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:18 am to lsunurse
So we can give up on those that are addicted or those that remain suicidal (some of the most needy in our society), but not those trying to better themselves. That’s an interesting concept and very articulate. How do we apply that to the remainder of our society, i.e., welfare recipients?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:20 am to celltech1981
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grandpa just fell and they won't give him a hip transplant because they think he is just going to fall again
If grandpa can pay for it give it to him
If I have to pay for someone else’s grandpa, no hip
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