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re: Home audio/video setup: How to wire and what equipment do I need?

Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:20 am to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78372 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:20 am to
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Sonos is OK for what it is, but it doesn't cut it compared to real audio quality


Come on dude. Google audiophile Sonos and you get articles from every respected audiophile corner in the world saying the Sonos is pretty damn impressive.

Y'all keep rolling your eyes at Sonos and believing that word tsunami from tigerwise will deliver a trouble-free music music experience and somehow with sound listening about as subjective as telling the difference between 2-buck Chuck and a $100 bottle of wine that you really are getting a better music experience from all that spaghetti of avrs, cables and switch boxes.

To each their own but it's laughable to dismiss Sonos when 99.9% of the people on this site simply believe what the dinosaur HiFi sellers are feeding them and couldn't tell the difference between the 2 systems without being told which is better for them.

I understand. Every Sonos install gives tigerwise a few new gray hairs because it's hard to drag out those billable install hours and high margin cables when all you're doing is plugging in a few speakers and he knows he will likely never hear from them again.

With traditional "real" audio installs he can tweak their system and sell them a bucket full of high margin cables along with hours of installation charges while he crawls though attics and cuts holes in walls.

For every one Marco Esquandolas on this site there are 15,000 others who just want to blast the occasional Buffett song and pipe LSU game audio to their whole house. They will NEVER actually appreciate the so-called audio quality advantage of a traditional speaker setup but they will all get to appreciate the special hell of AVRs and zone 2 audio management.

The solution is in front of you. Stop drinking the koolaid and become installer free. When you add in the hassle and install fees with a traditional setup Sonos looks like a bargain even at retail.

There's a reason even 10+ year old Sonos products can still be sold at 99% of their original price. You can't say that about any AVR which is obsolete in 2 years. They're piled up at Goodwill. that's why tigerwise is recommending cheap onkyos these days because he knows this is true even for the $2,000 avrs and doesn't want to take that call from an angry client who just realized that $2,000 Yamaha AVR he installed 3 years ago can't pump 4K HDR to his new TV.

Eta my investment risk going with Sonos < $0. I can sell every last Sonos component in my house for huge margins tomorrow if I decided to throw it out. You'd be lucky to sell anything in that "premium" system for pennies on the dollar after it's installed. Think about that for a minute when you're getting ready to move forward.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 7:59 am
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33449 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:14 am to
When SONOS starts selling in ceiling speakers and outdoor speakers, come talk to me. I don't want speaker boxes all over my house. (which is why I don't own towers even though they sound better than my bookshelfs) . And I don't want to worry about if the humidity in LA will destroy my speakers outside.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 8:16 am
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:16 am to
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A stereo pair of Sonos play 1s will destroy ceiling mounted mono speakers.


Who installs in ceiling mono speakers on resi applications ? NOBODY.

You either don’t know what you are talking about and/or you trolling. A pair of in ceiling speaker are going to fill the room with sound so much better than some play1s.


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Every Sonos install gives tigerwise a few new gray hairs because it's hard to drag out those billable


Sonos are easy money jobs but are a bad value for the end users.

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while he crawls though attics and cuts holes in walls.


I don’t climb in attics brah. You don’t know me.


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You can't say that about any AVR which is obsolete in 2 years


The things on a AVR that are obsolete in a couple years are feature SONOS doesn’t even have.

I’m not anti Sonos, I’ll sell a couple 100,000 of it this year. I just understand the pros and cons. In a thread where the OP starts off by saying NO SONOS you can’t help but come in a derail the thread with walls of ignorant text.

Like I said you are either trolling and/or don’t know what you are talking about. Either way you should STFU


Have a nice day.


Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72724 posts
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:04 pm to
Impressive rant. How much do you get paid by Sonos for your effort? Or are you just that insecure that you need everyone to buy into them as hard as you have?

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Google audiophile Sonos and you get articles




You get people trying to make money. Little more.

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To each their own but it's laughable to dismiss Sonos 


I'm watching Infinity War on a Sonos 5.1 setup as I type this. I went Sonos because we share a wall with our neighbors at this house and it was good enough. My place up north has a theater room, and a real setup in it. It's not even close.

So, like I said, it's OK for what it is. Still, if getting the best quality is my priority, I'm looking elsewhere.

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There's a reason even 10+ year old Sonos products can still be sold at 99% of their original price.


Honda and Toyota can say close to the same thing when compared to other vehicles...

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Eta my investment risk going with Sonos < $0. 


That's nice. Most people aren't going to spend as much time as you looking for rare Craigslist sellers who don't know how to use the Internet. Others, like me, don't give a shite about money.
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