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re: I’m skeptical that auto stop / start on automobiles is a great feature for saving fuel
Posted on 8/12/18 at 6:58 pm to weagle99
Posted on 8/12/18 at 6:58 pm to weagle99
You would be amazed at the amount of computer management that allows this to happen and actually makes it way more efficient than you think it does. The computer can fire off the very 1st cylinder on the very 1st crank because TPS and all the other sensors that are built into that system it's not as badge as you think
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Posted on 8/12/18 at 6:59 pm to fallguy_1978
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I think big V8 engines will have like a 3k tax on them in the near future
Pretty sure there is a gas guzzler tax in CA
I remember looking at a Mercedes SLR over there a few years ago and there was some sort of gas guzzler tax that was several thousand. I'd imagine that was because it was a 500K car though.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 7:04 pm to ntrcptr
I'm sure it is impressive.
It still takes a bit of time (very slight) for it to kick in and it still puts extra wear on electrical components (that AC is running on something).
It has no place on a performance car.
It still takes a bit of time (very slight) for it to kick in and it still puts extra wear on electrical components (that AC is running on something).
It has no place on a performance car.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 7:05 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
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oil burners
6.7 > 3.5.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 7:35 pm to VetteGuy
This feature has to be annoying as shite when in traffic on the bridge
Posted on 8/12/18 at 8:20 pm to weagle99
Emissions control is what I was told. Bought a Chevy last year rather than a Buick because Chevy didn't has this feature yet Buick was nicer car but the hesitation although slight drove me nuts. Edited typo
This post was edited on 8/12/18 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 8/12/18 at 8:25 pm to dinosaur
My wife’s car has this. You can override it but every time you start the car. This feature is Pita.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 8:28 pm to Powerman
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I've wondered what it does to an engine and can't imagine it's anything good. I believe that you can turn the function off though
Hybrids have been doing this kind of operation for over a decade and don't have issues.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 8:44 pm to weagle99
You can have them coded to turn that feature off as the default
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:11 pm to weagle99
The delay is noticeable on some models and annoying. I prefer my 6 speed stick which gets better mpg.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:16 pm to weagle99
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2- My hunch is this setup is harder on engine components, particularly starter motors. If that is correct how much more fuel will we burn manufacturing more replacement parts, packaging them, and shipping them than we do now?
While I do think you are saving some gas... I have always read that 90% of your engine wear happens in the 1st 30 seconds of starting your car... If that is true then I think I would rather keep the motor running....
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:18 pm to klrstix
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I have always read that 90% of your engine wear happens in the 1st 30 seconds of starting your car..
It's not the same as a cold start. It's much quicker. I'm not sure about the wear and tear though.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:26 pm to weagle99
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To be fair, Ford SUPPOSEDLY beefed up the battery/starter/driveshaft/etc to compensate for it
Do I believe them? Ehhh...
Independent studies have been done that claim it saves roughly 10% in fuel mileage depending on how often you stop of course
Personally, I think that's horseshite
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2- My hunch is this setup is harder on engine components, particularly starter motors. If that is correct how much more fuel will we burn manufacturing more replacement parts, packaging them, and shipping them than we do now?
To be fair, Ford SUPPOSEDLY beefed up the battery/starter/driveshaft/etc to compensate for it
Do I believe them? Ehhh...
Independent studies have been done that claim it saves roughly 10% in fuel mileage depending on how often you stop of course
Personally, I think that's horseshite
This post was edited on 8/12/18 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:28 pm to fallguy_1978
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It's not the same as a cold start. It's much quicker. I'm not sure about the wear and tear though.
Curious how this feature affects batteries in cold weather environments.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:30 pm to redstick13
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Curious how this feature affects batteries in cold weather environments.
I've had mine for a year with no issues. Not exactly a long sample size. I'll occasionally turn it off but most of the time I barely notice it.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:31 pm to CoonassatTEXAS
quote:Tell me more. I have a 16 F-150 and hate this feature. I've since grown in the habit of pressing the button to turn it off as soon as I start the truck. But I was wondering if there was a permanent fix to it that didn't involve taking your dashboard loose and fricking with the jumpers.
Luckily you can buy an attachment to hook the truck up to your laptop and reprogram the auto stop off as default.
This post was edited on 8/12/18 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:32 pm to weagle99
Even cars like the AMG GTR have it which is completely stupid.
It has to do with CAFE standards that get worse each year. It's also why someday we'll only have 3 and 4 cylinder engines.
I had hope that Trump would lessen this shite.
It has to do with CAFE standards that get worse each year. It's also why someday we'll only have 3 and 4 cylinder engines.
I had hope that Trump would lessen this shite.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:34 pm to tigerinthebueche
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This feature has to be annoying as shite when in traffic on the bridge
I have a 17 F150 with it and functionally there really aren't any issues with it. It isn't like a normal cranking of the engine, it's much quicker and gentler and happens very, very quickly
Idk about wear and tear but functionally it's not an issue at all
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:40 pm to weagle99
quote:I said the same thing to a buddy of mine while riding in his new F150 the other day.
particularly starter motors
The starter will be toast in a year.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:42 pm to member12
Correct. It saves basically no fuel over the life of the car. It does cut down big time on idle emission
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