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re: More Military Expansion---will we EVER quit spending too much??--Space Force
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:54 am to I B Freeman
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:54 am to I B Freeman
I’d rather cut the handouts than the military, and the military spends its money on some dumb shite too, but the handouts account for 60% of all government spending while the military is at like 16%
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:57 am to germandawg
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cut taxes, increase spending,
To what end? Do you agree it’s possible that the interest on our debt can exceed our GDP?
Maybe you only think 5 to 10 years into the future because other wise your policy won’t work in the long run
Posted on 8/10/18 at 8:22 am to WaWaWeeWa
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To what end? Do you agree it’s possible that the interest on our debt can exceed our GDP?
Maybe you only think 5 to 10 years into the future because other wise your policy won’t work in the long run
Sure interest can reach GDP....if we increase the debt by 66 times what it is today. We ain’t remotely close to that in our lifetime. Or our kids or grandkids.
It ain’t my policy it’s the policy of the US since about 1960 or so....and it’s the policy of the GOP Base. It always has been we just don’t have to hear about alll of that austerity foolishness. Actions speak much louder than words. The GOP has oversaw the debt raise as has the Democrats. The base of the GOP is all in on collective spending increases, thank the Christ. Trump has finally stopped all of stupidity that the RINOs ran on......but never did....and is at least honest and has allowed the base of the GOP to be honest as well. Collective spending on the tick is the only painless path to prosperity...and when the bills come due you just renegotiate terms....it’s called bankruptcy....and within minutes lenders are lining up to loan you even more money. Donald Trump built a huge fortune using this formula....he didn’t invent it but was smart enough to recognize its merits. He had WAY more competition than the US has...it worked for Trump but it’ll work in spades for the US because we don’t have any competition for investment in the world....if our military doesn’t exist the world is a chaotic place ran by either China or Russia. Better us than them. If our military loses its stranglehold in the world there won’t be a safe place on the planet to invest....capital ain’t going to have that shite....they’ll renegotiate terms just like Trump did several times with his investors. Capital HAS to be invested because it’s the only way it can grow. It can either be invested in a viable US and world or China or Russia....where you gonna put your capital? EXACTLY.......in the US even after bankruptcy....cause ther ain’t another game in town.
This shite ain’t for the feint of heart....that’s why it’s so remarkable when someone like Trump does it. You can’t give a frick about reputation and fulfilling agreements....you gotta look out for you and yours. If it was for everyone everyone would do it.....but it works and there are many examples of it in the private sector. You just gotta stay the course.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 8:32 am to I B Freeman
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Do you really need to be spending money on another branch of the military?
I know given your arse has been handed to you multiple times on the tariffs you are looking at something else to bitch about...
However, you are probably more lost here than you are/were on the tariffs...
Funding will be consolidated from the current budgets from the Navy, Air Force, and Army (yes they already all spend money on "space") and if I were a betting man, some NASA funding will be consolidated into this branch as well...
So, pull your panties out of your crack and enjoy the day...
Posted on 8/10/18 at 8:34 am to WaWaWeeWa
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we say small government all we mean is a government that stays within its limits as outlined in the constitution.
Who is "we"?
The "limits of the Constitution" allow for a huge government.
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Please point me to the clause in the constitution that says the government should provide healthcare, college education, guaranteed jobs, and minimum basic income.
There is nothing in the Constitution prohibiting such foolish things and that has been verified by the Supreme Court.
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That’s what we are fighting against when we say we want a small government
You should just start saying you want a humongous military regardless of the cost, you want huge intrusions on economic matters on behalf of privileged industries and you do not want welfare for anybody.
That would be a much more truthful statement than "we want small government"---that would be "fake posting".
Posted on 8/10/18 at 8:35 am to I B Freeman
We should have created a space force a decade ago. We could always drop the army..
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 8:39 am
Posted on 8/10/18 at 8:41 am to BurningHeart
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He hasn't worked in almost 30 years
I haven't worked for somebody else in over 30 years punk.
I have owned my own business the last 30 years and have not worried about what some boss thought every day.
What do you do?
Posted on 8/10/18 at 10:51 am to I B Freeman
yes, how else will we develop warp capability and phaser weapons and photon torpedos? dont you star trek......
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 10:52 am
Posted on 8/10/18 at 10:59 am to I B Freeman
Well, at least this wasn't a tariff screaming thread.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 11:03 am to I B Freeman
Defense spending needs to be reduced greatly, as do all other government departments.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 11:39 am to I B Freeman
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There are old timers that still bemoan the separation of the Air Force from the Army.
Damn straight. If Air Force and Army played football together like Marines and Navy do, then they'd have a better chance to win.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 11:48 am to I B Freeman
Defense spending does need to be reduced. I’d reduce it by half at least. That doesn’t mean a Osace Force is a bad idea. This country would be better served by a Soace Force than it would a standing Army.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 11:56 am to Dr_Tim_Whatley
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Great to check in and see the trumpers know space force is fairly indefensible, so they just play along with the joke of this presidency
China is already blowing up satelites, you know the things that provide us communication channels, gps, etc.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/feb/04/marco-rubio/marco-rubio-says-china-practicing-how-blow-our-sat/
The country or entity that controls space, basically controls the information that armies need to perform their duties. China is taking space very, very seriously.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:30 pm to I B Freeman
"What do you people that love more military spending, love tariffs, love farm welfare and hate all immigration call your political philosophy?"
Common Sense
Common Sense
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:44 pm to I B Freeman
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The "limits of the Constitution" allow for a huge government.
What? The constitution specifically states the federal government should have a military. It may not say that you can’t have a welfare state, but a welfare state would go against other aspects of the constitution which says I have a right to private property. Massive wealth redistribution on the scale Bernie Sanders wants is essentially socialism. He doesn’t even deny that. Does socialism violate any of my rights in the constitution?
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You should just start saying you want a humongous military regardless of the cost, you want huge intrusions on economic matters
There can always be a discussion about how much. The key is that the federal government is staying within its bounds.
In an ideal world we could have things like welfare temporarily for when people fall on hard times, but since you progressive clowns can’t decide on something reasonable without pulling us all into socialism (which I think is natural without restrictions on government) then we have to fall back on the constitution.
Your problem is you are so conceited that you think you can design a society better than the founding fathers. You don’t think the founding fathers knew the danger of the federal government becoming too powerful? That’s why they wrote the constitution that you are trying to ignore.
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:49 pm to I B Freeman
It's probably more about combining redundant programs dealing with space, kind of like how the Defense Logistics Agency was created.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:50 pm to I B Freeman
I guess to summarize my point...
Your basic claim is that Republicans are contradicting themselves. However, you can agree with defense spending, but disagree on welfare spending since the constitution states that one of the federal governments responsibilities is maintaining a military.
Now that doesn’t mean the government should have an unlimited budget, but there is no contradiction in the above statement.
Do you agree?
Your basic claim is that Republicans are contradicting themselves. However, you can agree with defense spending, but disagree on welfare spending since the constitution states that one of the federal governments responsibilities is maintaining a military.
Now that doesn’t mean the government should have an unlimited budget, but there is no contradiction in the above statement.
Do you agree?
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:15 pm to I B Freeman
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The "limits of the Constitution" allow for a huge government.
Disagree. Any libertarian worth his salt will tell you that constitutional restraint would mean the elimination of literally hundreds of agencies, and departments.
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There is nothing in the Constitution prohibiting such foolish things and that has been verified by the Supreme Court.
Nothing except the 10th Amendment, and the Supreme Court is a big part of the problem in that regard. If the Constitution does not grant the federal government power regarding a particular subject, where does the Supreme Court get the power to pass judgment about it? The SC shits on it's constitutional bounds regularly.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:25 pm to I B Freeman
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Do you really need to be spending money on another branch of the military?
Military spending is for the greater good. We could pay for it by cancelling all welfare programs.
Absolutely no taxpayer money should go to any individual. Except maybe FEMA money after a disaster. But all forms of EBT, housing, Obamaphone etc should be illegal.
Think of the roads, bridges and schools we could have if we just quit giving money to worthless lazy fricksticks?
Get a job and stay off my lawn.
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