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re: Mississippi - 53% of ALL births are to unwed mothers
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:54 am to Toddy
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:54 am to Toddy
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I'm originally from NE Mississippi and unless they've changed, we had good public schools when I was growing up. There were no private schools and the whole community strived to make them the
And then came integration.
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I'm just thankful to be from the area of Mississippi that I am.
Sounds racist to me.
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:54 am to FooManChoo
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One of the reasons God told Israel to wipe out the inhabitants of the land was because they sacrificed their children to false gods.
Maybe he should have told them not to do that first.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:55 am to Esquire
quote:If a slave is taken in war (as opposed to killing them) or they willingly give themselves up to be slaves, that was allowed. That's not what happened in this country.
But not slavery in general.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:57 am to FooManChoo
Taking a slave in war is kidnapping. Your books promotes slavery and gives explicit instructions on keeping slaves. There’s no sugar-coating it.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:58 am to Esquire
You talking about slavery in terms of owing people money.
In Bible times, lots of doctors were held as slaves, until they could pay off the debts, or every jubilee.
In Bible times, lots of doctors were held as slaves, until they could pay off the debts, or every jubilee.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:59 am to matthew25
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You talking about slavery in terms of owing people money.
Not all slaves were financial debts. Try again.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:59 am to Smart Post
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And then came integration.
Integration went off without a hitch where I'm from. I started grade school about seven or so years after they were combined. But again, NE Mississippi has completely different demographics than a large portion of the state.
We never and have never to my knowledge had any type of racial tension, etc.
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Sounds racist to me.
Nah. The hill people of NE Miss. are the salt of the Earth. Fine people.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:03 am to Esquire
quote:They tried to kill the Isralites. Not much use. Plus they had no interest in worshiping the true God. They liked what they were doing and the Old Testament was one continual story of Israel forsaking God to worship as those child sacrificers did. God punished them over and over again because of it.
Maybe he should have told them not to do that first.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:11 am to Esquire
quote:Taking a slave from war was not kidnapping. It was a punishment for waging war against the people of God where they forfeited their lives. Death was the other option. No one was taken from their peaceful sleep at night. They were taken from the battlefields or from the captured cities where they were fighting against Israel or other nations of the time. Spoils of war and all that.
Taking a slave in war is kidnapping. Your books promotes slavery and gives explicit instructions on keeping slaves. There’s no sugar-coating it.
The Bible provided laws for the just treatment of slaves, including allowances for those who escaped or were severely injured by their masters. It wasn't like the slavery we think of from our own history where a slave owner could do anything they wanted to their slaves.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:13 am to Toddy
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But again, NE Mississippi has completely different demographics than a large portion of the state.
You from Tishomingo, Tupelo, or Columbus?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:32 am to FooManChoo
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It wasn't like the slavery we think of from our own history where a slave owner could do anything they wanted to their slaves.
Still slavery.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:36 am to Esquire
We are all, to some degree, a form of slave. Unless you are on some rad level of self-sufficiency far away from civilization, there is always a higher authority who can force you to their will. We've just put window dressing on the matter, and loosened what can cause the condition.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:41 am to HempHead
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Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:45 am to Esquire
I fail to see how that addresses my point. Slavery is slavery, after all, regardless of the stipulations around the treatment of slaves.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:52 am to FooManChoo
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Also murder is against God's law.
and yet:
1) Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
3) If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
4) They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
5 )And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)
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Kidnapping people or buying kidnapped people for use in slavery was against the law of God.
umm...
1) However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
2) If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)
3) Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:03 am to HempHead
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I fail to see how that addresses my point.
I read your post and didn’t see a point.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:11 am to Esquire
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I read your post and didn’t see a point.
Then you failed to read. We are all slaves; like in kind but not degree. Responding with Scripture regarding the treatment of slaves does nothing to address this.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:20 am to HempHead
Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify your slaveholder manual.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 2:21 am
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:27 am to Esquire
Ah. I see that your problem does not actually have anything to do with my claims, it only has to do with a document that you have no idea to whether or not I adhere.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:33 am to HempHead
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it only has to do with a document that you have no idea to whether or not I adhere.
No shite.
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