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re: Running electricity to my shed
Posted on 7/11/18 at 12:52 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Posted on 7/11/18 at 12:52 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Please have your wife report back to us if things go south
Posted on 7/11/18 at 12:55 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
OK, so, when talking about electrical requirements for a shed, it always starts out as a couple of outlets and a light. 2 years down the road, you'll want to power more shite... If this is a typical house circuit done right you're talking only 15 amp ckt (14 gauge wire) or 20 amp ckt.(12 gauge wire. Depending on the distance of that cable run, neither of which may suffice.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 12:58 pm to Ashtray
Agreed, likely just romex ran now for single plug in place, I would start over and run something a bit heavier, will save headache in the end.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:12 pm to cave canem
I’d put it in pipe. That’s just me.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:36 pm to Wtodd
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have your wife report back to us if things go south
Posted on 7/11/18 at 4:37 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
If you have a general idea of which box the outlet goes to, use a fox and hound to find which breaker it is on.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 4:51 pm to cave canem
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We definitely have a different definition of expensive, non contact voltage testers run about 15 bucks at home depot, I am sure Harbor Freight is even cheaper.
We also have very different levels of understanding when it comes to tracing live circuits. I have NCV-capable DVOMs and much better than what Harbor Freight sells. They won't trace a buried cable. I've looked into units capable of tracing live wires in walls and shallowly buried and they are hundreds of dollars at the lowend.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 8:15 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
You'll want or need more power. Redo the pipe system from the panel to the shed, set a panel in the shed and walk away.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 8:53 pm to Clames
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We also have very different levels of understanding when it comes to tracing live circuits. I have NCV-capable DVOMs and much better than what Harbor Freight sells. They won't trace a buried cable. I've looked into units capable of tracing live wires in walls and shallowly buried and they are hundreds of dollars at the lowend.
bullshite, I used a simple cheap klein and was able to locate and mark wire in almost this exact same scenario.
While it MAY not work for the OP for whatever reason to act like it is impossible is silly, the product info even clearly states it works for this application.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:19 am to Bert Macklin FBI
best way to do it is unhook the old line since you want it gone, and this way you can just cut off below ground where it sticks up and just bury it.
next, from where it was connected to house power, you dig a trench to the shed about 8-12" deep and use a 12/2 romex wire safe for underground use and slide it inside 3/4" pvc pipe and run it to the shed. use 10/2 if there might be a chance you want to run more then just a light and single outlet in the shed one day.
it is code approved to use pvc pipe as underground electrical conduit so use it from the point of electricity taken from house to the shed. you want the pipe to avoid the accidental nick from a shovel one day when you or the kids dig a hole.
there is no real "need" to even glue the pipe or fittings but tap them on so they are fully tight. its a bit fiddly getting the wire in the 90 fittings but its not hard.
next, from where it was connected to house power, you dig a trench to the shed about 8-12" deep and use a 12/2 romex wire safe for underground use and slide it inside 3/4" pvc pipe and run it to the shed. use 10/2 if there might be a chance you want to run more then just a light and single outlet in the shed one day.
it is code approved to use pvc pipe as underground electrical conduit so use it from the point of electricity taken from house to the shed. you want the pipe to avoid the accidental nick from a shovel one day when you or the kids dig a hole.
there is no real "need" to even glue the pipe or fittings but tap them on so they are fully tight. its a bit fiddly getting the wire in the 90 fittings but its not hard.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 10:26 am
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:32 am to keakar
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its a bit fiddly getting the wire in the 90 fittings but its not hard.
After the pipe is installed, suck string through the whole run with a shop vac. Tape wire to string.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:48 am to keakar
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12/2 romex wire safe for underground
Just to clarify, he'd be looking for UF or THWN not romex/nm.
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there is no real "need" to even glue the pipe or fittings but tap them on so they are fully tight.
NEC 352.48 disagrees about gluing pipe.
But since this won't need to be inspected, he can do whatever he wants until he sells the house.
I'd glue it, thats probably the easiest part of the whole project.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 11:05 am to upgrade
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After the pipe is installed, suck string through the whole run with a shop vac. Tape wire to string.
CLEARLY .... clearly, you have never in your life tried to pull wire through conduit longer then 20 ft if at all
its easier to slide the wire into the conduit before it is assembled and buried unless you have the strength of hurcules or just really like working your arse off. before its burried you can slide the wire in with no effort at all and then just slip the ends on over the short ends of the wire after to completely assemble it.
and, you will never pull romex wire past a regular 3/4" pvc 90, or ANY wire for that matter unless you buy the long radius gray conduit 90 for it like these LINK but they dont make it easy to get a neat compact connection at the boxes
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 11:08 am
Posted on 7/12/18 at 11:52 am to keakar
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CLEARLY .... clearly, you have never in your life tried to pull wire through conduit longer then 20 ft if at all
I have pulled up to 700’ duct banks. And more than likely bigger heavier wire than youve ever touched.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 11:59 am
Posted on 7/12/18 at 11:54 am to QuietTiger
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You'll want or need more power
This, IMO, is absolutely correct
Posted on 7/12/18 at 11:56 am to keakar
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you will never pull romex wire past a regular 3/4" pvc 90
Why are we putting romex in conduit anyway
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unless you buy the long radius gray conduit 90
I mean, I thought this was understood
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