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re: Released body camera footage shows cops stood outside Vegas gunman's door in fear

Posted on 7/3/18 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 4:21 pm to
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if any of us were in his position, the vast majority would have done the same.


I cant disagree more. I think you repeating this bullshite is a slap in the face to police officers everywhere. I think the vast majority of policemen would have done something to at least distract the shooter. You keep repeating “natural instincts” like its some trump card no one can argue against. Of course everyone has natural instincts for self preservation. Freezing for a few moments is one thing but for 15 minutes while people are being fired apon is cowardice. In your mind there is no situation which one is a coward or pussy...because “natural instincts”

People are much more capable than you give them credit for. You projecting your insecurities upon everyone else is bullshite.

Its not about “he had a billion machine guns and cameras and other guy had a handgun.” If one makes that argument, they completely miss the point. The man was a POLICE OFFICER who made a conscious decision that risking his life to fulfill his duty was not worth it even to save defenseless people.

Anyone who defends this police officer better not make one damn argument against gun control for private citizens
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 4:23 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35329 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 4:34 pm to
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I cant disagree more. I think you repeating this bullshite is a slap in the face to police officers everywhere


Lol ok Rambo.

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I think the vast majority of policemen would have done something to at least distract the shooter.

Hopefully we never have to find out
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In your mind there is no situation which one is a coward or pussy...because “natural instincts”

Link?
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People are much more capable than you give them credit for. You projecting your insecurities upon everyone else is bullshite.

Link? What am I insecure about?
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Its not about “he had a billion machine guns and cameras and other guy had a handgun.” If one makes that argument, they completely miss the point. The man was a POLICE OFFICER who made a conscious decision that risking his life to fulfill his duty was not worth it even to save defenseless people.

Yawn. You wouldn’t have done shite. Rambo

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Anyone who defends this police officer better not make one damn argument against gun control for private citizens


Promise I have more firearms than you do
Posted by SpanishFortTiger
Spanish Fort, Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
1662 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 4:42 pm to
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Anyone who defends this police officer better not make one damn argument against gun control for private citizens


I wouldn't say defend, more like empathize with the magnitude of the situation.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35329 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 4:44 pm to
Woah now. Mr bamaboy here is of the stalinistic mindset that any man who wavers in the line of duty is a coward and a traitor and should be punished
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27353 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 4:45 pm to
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but I mean that's literally the dude's job and what he is trained for
He’s trained to write tickets and arrest people not get into a close-quarters shootout with a heavily armed madman.
Posted by mametoo
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
3220 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:00 pm to
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Its very easy to tell the people who have held a weapon and gone through some sort of scenario training


I agree.

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great comment that easily relates to BR/DS/Surrounding areas


Less than 2 years ago law enforcement in the area you described went toe to toe with a well armed maniac that was trying his best to kill every cop he saw.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32145 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:09 pm to
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Less than 2 years ago law enforcement in the area you described went toe to toe with a well armed maniac that was trying his best to kill every cop he saw.


Terrorist. We call that a terrorist.
Posted by NotGrammarKnotsi
Member since Jan 2018
314 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:13 pm to
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Less than 2 years ago law enforcement in the area you described went toe to toe with a well armed maniac that was trying his best to kill every cop he saw.



a completely different scenario and they weren't trained for it..Pretty sure that no one rushed in on that guy and they shot him from as far away as they could
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:28 pm to
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Woah now. Mr bamaboy here is of the stalinistic mindset that any man who wavers in the line of duty is a coward and a traitor and should be punished


Stalin huh? Im sorry you are insecure about being a pussy. Hell I have my flaws...one being arguing with trolls, idiots, and knowitalls like yourself.

Washington executed deserters in the revolutionary war...as did Union and Confederate generals. All Stalinesque I assume... Sorry you are a coward, pussy, and a terrible debater
Posted by TaTa Toothy
Everything in its right place
Member since Sep 2017
944 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:36 pm to
We need a weight requirement for cops.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:42 pm to
Of course. No one is surprised.

There are a few good cops with big balls, but most are just there to write tickets, game the system when they can, and make what they can because they dont have a lot of options.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35329 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:45 pm to
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Im sorry you are insecure about being a pussy.


So, by pointing out that most people in that situation would cave and not proceed through the doorway, I’m a pussy
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Washington executed deserters in the revolutionary war...as did Union and Confederate generals. All Stalinesque I assume.

Well. Uh.. yeah. Because it has been proven that people having a mental break and being unable to fight their primal instincts isn’t them being a pussy.

But hey. Whatever floats your boat bro.

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Sorry you are a coward, pussy, and a terrible debater


Look in the mirror, pussy. No one is impressed by your internet badass act. No one.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:48 pm to
I disagree with most of them being like that but there certainly seems to be more than I thought. Thats why cops should be punished for dereliction of duty. Cops should know there will be consequences when they refuse to to their job
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14851 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:48 pm to
When the group first hears the volleyball of gunfire, someone says 'Oh God', at that moment their minds were made up on not dealing with this situation.

Only dude they looked pissed was the security guy in a suit. He seems impatient.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:58 pm to
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Not sure how logic gets downvoted

Dude, this is the OT. If it was announced that the cure for cancer was discovered and was administered via oral sex, one of these assholes would downvote it.
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 6:00 pm
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49168 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:59 pm to
But you need to turn in your guns, the police will protect you
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49168 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 6:03 pm to
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Police are not here to protect you They are there to write reports, stop speeders and investigate the aftermath of crimes You are your families defense. There is no one to protect you


This is actually codified, at the highest levels of the courts they have consistentl6 ruled the police have zero obligation legally to protect anyone from any criminal,
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52719 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 6:03 pm to
Most cops only want to take action when they know hey have the advantage aka unarmed black men
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11371 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 6:08 pm to
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disagree with most of them being like that but there certainly seems to be more than I thought. Thats why cops should be punished for dereliction of duty. Cops should know there will be consequences when they refuse to to their job



Dude gets to live with that the rest of his life

If you want to pull him off duty, fine, but I wouldn’t punish further.

Him blaring in against automatic fire and who knows how many shooters like Rambo with a girl on her second day and 2 security guards likely only ends with 4 more deaths and no one there to contain the guy. It’s an absolutely awful situation.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 6:12 pm to
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Released body camera footage shows cops stood outside Vegas gunman's door in fear



Prime example of why I'll NEVER turn my guns in and rely on a cop to save my life or that of my family.
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