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Player comparison 1958 vs 2018
Posted on 5/26/18 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 5/26/18 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 5/26/18 at 5:29 pm to Jmwtigre
It's not just size on paper but overall speed, strength, etc. I don't ever understand the Lebron to Michael Jordan comparison, aside from them being totally different players, because they're in completely different eras of training, nutrition, analytics, etc. Who really knows what the other would have done in that era?
Posted on 5/26/18 at 5:40 pm to Jmwtigre
I mean we flipped from white athletes to black athletes
Posted on 5/26/18 at 5:43 pm to Jmwtigre
Keep in mind how many were playing two way. Makes a difference in what kind of player you need as well.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 5:44 pm to Jmwtigre
I was fortunate enough to attend several games in the 1958 season and knew a couple of the players on that team. If anything, the weights of the players were exaggerated. Even by the standards of the day, the 1958 Tigers were small. The average starting lineup of the AAA Bogalusa Lumberjacks outweighed the starting lineup of the Tigers that year.
Thanks for that post.
Thanks for that post.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 5:44 pm to Jmwtigre
Go back to two way football and the players would get smaller again. Not all the way, because you would still have the effect of modern training and nutrition. But 320 lb. linemen and 260 lb. linebackers would disappear overnight.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 6:23 pm to Jmwtigre
The size difference are most obvious for the linemen.
Less of a difference for the skill positions. Johnny Robinson for example was listed at 6’ 185 lb, but when he went to the pros as a DB he put on weight to about 200 lb. not much different than some of the current DBs.
Also the 1970 LSU team that went toe to toe with #1 Nebraska was always smaller than its opponents. Ronnie Estay was only about 230. John Sage was even smaller, maybe 215, and these very good DTs were going against the huge Nebraska OL.
Less of a difference for the skill positions. Johnny Robinson for example was listed at 6’ 185 lb, but when he went to the pros as a DB he put on weight to about 200 lb. not much different than some of the current DBs.
Also the 1970 LSU team that went toe to toe with #1 Nebraska was always smaller than its opponents. Ronnie Estay was only about 230. John Sage was even smaller, maybe 215, and these very good DTs were going against the huge Nebraska OL.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 8:35 pm to Jmwtigre
This doesn't have anything to do with LSU but it does fit the thread. My dad was born in 1915 and played HS football. He told me once that his team found some newspaper clippings about a championship team from his school from just a few years earlier and his team outweighed them by ten pounds per man. So, the trend has been going on for a long time.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 9:38 pm to Jmwtigre
How big were you when you played?
Posted on 5/27/18 at 2:50 pm to Jmwtigre
Backup Fullback Charles Tarter was the heaviest guy on the team at 218 lbs
Posted on 5/27/18 at 3:16 pm to Jmwtigre
Back when football was played by normal people.
Posted on 5/27/18 at 4:08 pm to Jmwtigre
There is no comparison. Players are bigger faster and stronger by a wide margin. 255 to 260 was big back then. 300 to 300 is big. I would imagine 4.7 to 4.6 would be considered fast. Now, Linebackers can carry 220 to 240 weight and still run well into the 4.5s.
It would be brutal if we could play games between teams now and teams in the 50s, 60s, 70s. Would be like watching Tigers and Kittens.
It would be brutal if we could play games between teams now and teams in the 50s, 60s, 70s. Would be like watching Tigers and Kittens.
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