re: What is a good cfb coaches process?

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is a DL guru. I don't think he lacks competency in that field at all. It's actually his competence at being a DL coach and at recruiting to a lesser extent that has got him to where he is toda

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are we sure about that? youd think a dline guru could take 4 star dline backups and not get pushed around by troy's oline.

its easy being a dline coach with all Americans

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are we sure about that? youd think a dline guru could take 4 star dline backups and not get pushed around by troy's oline.

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Funny that this narrative gets lost in the shuffle. Shouldn't a purported DL wizz be able to whip some blue chip back ups into shape to beat a Sun Belt team? Must not be that much of a DL wizz, even with Ole Man Jenkins on staff.

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What is a good cfb coaches process?

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I'm guessing this is stemming from our discussion earlier.

For my part, I would say that a process begins with an overarching philosophy. As a HC, what is your philosophy? When I think of the difference between someone that doesn't have a process and someone that does, I think of the difference between a pretty good chess player and the chess master. A pretty good chess player can make solid perfunctory moves that make the most sense in the moment, but a chess master makes his moves in service of a grand strategy.

A philosophy is important because it provides a blueprint as to what you need to do. Look at O's comments about his philosophy and what he ended up doing. First he said he's a pro style guy. Then when he got that job he says now you have to run the spread. Then he hires Matt Canada.

What is the common denominator between the three? Is there any consistency between what he said and what he ended up doing? If you're committed to the spread for instance, after you didn't get Kiffin, why didn't you get the next best guy that runs his philosophy? That guy not available? Get the next best guy that runs it. If you have to go down to choice #4 that runs Kiffin's strategy, the strategy that you said you wanted, isn't that a superior choice than the guy that's the best at what he runs but runs something that you don't even like? This is part of the reason why I call into question if he he even has a strong idea of what he wants to do.

You say "of course he does." Why do you assume he does? Why don't you question why he does what he does and simply assume that there's a method to it? From my observation, O is like the guy that makes the best move in the moment, without regard to how this fits in to what he wants.

Sure if you're able to get all of the best players, do that. But the Meyers, the Sabans had to have something to fall back on before they started loading up on the players. They had to rely on strategy before the players flocked to them in droves. Even Miles had a strategy, dated as it was.

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His old GA as DL coach
His old DL coach as DL coach
The USC RB and OL coaches from his interim stint at USC
Dave Aranda’s old DB coach to coach safeties.
His old interim OC as full time OC.
The ST coach from his time with the saints.

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O's process, if anything, is comfort, familiarity. He says the word loyalty a lot, which supports that theory. The good coaches care about loyalty, loyalty to one's craft, not to the HC.

When you're trying to grow and do something you've never done, you need to do things that make you uncomfortable. When you're lifting weights, do you lift the same weight all of the time, or do you continue to challenge yourself? Progress is inherently uncomfortable, stressful.

Canada was actually a step in the right direction. O was not prepared for it though, so he's reverted back to familiarity.

I don't think any top coach wants a coaching staff full of friends. Friends in a working environment have a problem holding each other accountable. Every coach has advisors, but you want people that will challenge you too. No one learns from agreement/harmony all of the time.

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As a gameday coach Saban is actually mediocre

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granted he is a recruiting genius, no doubt about that. Best of all time. But other than that, he is still a good coach on par with a lot of other coaches. I mean he still looses games and has way more close games than he should given the talent differential advantage he gets. You could put any coach with his players and your going to get a lot of championships and titles. I mean shite, he went 8-5 in his third season at LSU. Orgeron did better than that in his very first season at LSU.

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granted he is a recruiting genius, no doubt about that. Best of all time. But other than that, he is still a good coach on par with a lot of other coaches. I mean he still looses games and has way more close games than he should given the talent differential advantage he gets. You could put any coach with his players and your going to get a lot of championships and titles. I mean shite, he went 8-5 in his third season at LSU. Orgeron did better than that in his very first season at LSU.

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Just... Just don't do this.

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I mean shite, he went 8-5 in his third season at LSU. Orgeron did better than that in his very first season at LSU.

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sweet. So O will become saban. sec championship this year ? I can’t wait for all these national titles either. Best coaches of all time will be saban and O

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O is a DL guru. I don't think he lacks competency in that field at all. It's actually his competence at being a DL

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