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re: What do plant operators do? And how much do they really make?

Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:40 pm to
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Do you understand how averages are calculated?


Assuredly better than you, although they aren't that important to what I said.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:42 pm to
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You really need to go back and slap the hell out of your parents for how you turned out. So sheltered


I'm making precisely zero assumptions here while you are relying on purely anecdotal evidence. Also, what does theoretically being sheltered have to do with deducing data?
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:45 pm to
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Then why do 60% of people not do it? Anyone working at a place better than McDonald's has retirement plans yet they still don't contribute. You retards dispute raw data because you and a couple of guys you know are the exception to the general data point, that doesnt change the general data point. Thinking a bunch of dudes with GEDs save at a higher rate than people with college degrees is not only stupid its wrong by every measurable metric, but keep making yourself look like a Neanderthal.



Why do you have so much disdain over this line of work?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:47 pm to
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Why do you have so much disdain over this line of work?


I don't. It'd just a laughable theory that they buck every trend in this country despite really being the poster child of a lot them.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:48 pm to
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Why are you so dense as to assume that the guys we are talking about are getting in with GED's. Go to Exxon, Dow, Shell, or Marathon with just a GED and you will get laughed at.


That’s what was throwing me off a bit as well. The only people that are operators at my plant and only got in with HS diplomas are the guys that have been there for 25+ years.

They WILL NOT hire anyone with less than an associates degree. That’s an absolute fact.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:49 pm to
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Well as of 2012 70% of manufacturing workers didn't have a college degre


You have a link to this? Where did you get this information?
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:50 pm to
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It'd just a laughable theory that they buck every trend in this countr


What trends?
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:51 pm to
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I'm not disparaging Enterprise and the many fine people who work there.


Sure seemed like it
Posted by GATORGAR247
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:51 pm to
Manufacturing workers is painting with a broad brush.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:52 pm to
His problem is he has no understanding of the industry. He's lumping your $14 hole watch and scaffold helpers along with the low end welder helpers and scaffold builders into his assumptions.

Of course all of these field hands aren't making bank, don't have degrees, and aren't saving money.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:53 pm to
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I'm making precisely zero assumptions here while you are relying on purely anecdotal evidence.


That operators have GEDs? Logic isn't you're strong suite
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:55 pm to
I was more pointing to his generalization that an uneducated manufacturing related position yielded predictable results in the field of money management.

I only used Enterprise because I am reminded of their management system and happened to be looking at renting a car with them earlier today. Used a company that only hires advance degree holders for certain positions.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:56 pm to
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Assuredly better than you, although they aren't that important to what I said.



Ah, so you believe they actually interviewed each person in the US to get those numbers.
Posted by cuyahoga tiger
NE Ohio via Tangipahoa
Member since Nov 2011
5872 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:01 pm to
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they look at some instruments and when one gauge moves past a threshold, they call somebody else to come turn a valve. They make about $50/hr and work 60 hour weeks.


thank goodness I'm in outside sales...chump change...and I work 60 hrs/week when I'm on the road and 20hrs/week when i work from home....last year I spent 83 nights away from home
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:02 pm to
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You are saying most plant workers have secondary educations or professional degrees? Interesting. The engineers and management do, but they are outnumbered "big" by lower educated workers "chief"


This statement applied fifteen years ago, but it is not the case today. While some that get hired in do so on the back of experience working with contract groups and getting P-Tech degrees, the industry is sucking up many highly talented, degreed individuals from fields that don’t pay anything close to what the petrochemical industry pays. So you are talking out of your bitter arse with very bad information.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:04 pm to
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Where did you get this information?



American manufacturing Institute.
Posted by yellowfin
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97814 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:04 pm to
It just caught my attention because I used to make fun of a couple fraternity brothers washing cars in suits and now they do really well in medical sales.


I don't even know why I'm in this thread. I've never even been in a plant but I do think the lights are pretty from the nugget in pond chuck
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:05 pm to
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This statement applied fifteen years ago, but it is not the case today


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So you are talking out of your bitter arse with very bad information


28% of manufacturing workers have a B.A or higher degree.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:07 pm to
You realize plant operator is a segment of manufacturing.

Like....neurosurgeon is part of the medical field.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
93802 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:07 pm to
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American manufacturing Institute.


I’m assuming you can provide a link with that information? That seems like something they would
publish online, yes?
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