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Devils advocate: the DNC knows Muellers report will be damning
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:58 pm
Just playing devils advocate: it's possible the Dems got wind that Muellers report will be bad for the Trump campaign associates, but not Trump himself, thus the lawsuit. Maybe they think they will have a strong case?
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Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:59 pm to deltaland
I mean, it’s possible, but not probable
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:01 pm to deltaland
Trump needs to sue the DNC and government for letting illegals citizens vote .
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:02 pm to deltaland
Its obvious now with this lawsuit
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:02 pm to deltaland
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Just playing devils advocate: it's possible the Dems got wind that Muellers report will be bad for the Trump campaign associates, but not Trump himself
I think this is exactly how it plays out, which is why firing him would be a huge mistake for Trump.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:03 pm to deltaland
1. That's completely correct and explains a seemingly insane action.
2. The DNC is a complete cluster f@ck with no leadership except the inept politician who bought them off.
2. The DNC is a complete cluster f@ck with no leadership except the inept politician who bought them off.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:05 pm to deltaland
Of course his report will be self-serving crap. Nancy Pelosi is probably writing most of it.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:09 pm to JudgeHolden
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I think this is exactly how it plays out, which is why firing him would be a huge mistake for Trump.
THIS.
Trump knows how to play these games due to his time in atlantic city. There will be no incriminating paper trail with his name on it.
Anywho to the OP, I doubt the DNC has insight into the report. And I doubt the report is forthcoming.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:11 pm to brian_wilson
His problem will be Cohen, not Mueller.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:12 pm to deltaland
Pssst the Dems have known all a long that there was no collusion
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:16 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Pssst the Dems have known all a long that there was no collusion
And collusion is not a crime.
Trump will probably be fine if he doesn't talk to investigators. If he does, we will find out how disciplined he can be. My money is on not enough. If he goes down for anything, it will be for lying to the FBI if he decides to talk with them.
The only other possibility is that he goes down for tax fraud or money laundering if Cohen turns on him. But I am not sure they could prosecute him for that while he is president.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:17 pm to deltaland
Just like everything else, this will blow up in their face. There are written facts/emails that show collusion within the party. Primary fixing, illegal contributions, etc etc etc
A suit opens their books COMPLETELY
A suit opens their books COMPLETELY
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:18 pm to the LSUSaint
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A suit opens their books COMPLETELY
Good point. Did they really sue?
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:18 pm to JudgeHolden
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If he goes down for anything, it will be for lying to the FBI if he decides to talk with them.
The Clinton tactic - get them for lying on something completely irrelevant.
Just like Bill, if it does happen, not much will come of it.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:19 pm to JudgeHolden
Yeah. If trump participated in money laundering, Cohen would know and take him down. Cohen likely would know about any sort of foreign bribes too.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:19 pm to deltaland
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Maybe they think they will have a strong case?
This is about keeping Russian collusion in the news. Period.
First, there is absolutely zero evidence of collusion. None of Mueller's charges so far have anything to do with Russian collusion.
Second, if all this nefarious activity was going on, why didn't the Obama Administration do anything about it and why wasn't the American public made aware?
Third, even if there were collusion, how do you prove that it was the proximate cause of Trump's win? You can't. Hillary Clinton was the worst Presidential candidate in modern history who exemplified the worst of the DC political class. Collusion had nothing to do with her deplorables comment, her failure to campaign in the Rust Belt, the contents of her emails and the DNC rigging a primary.
Fourth, good luck overcoming the requisite immunity statutes that prohibit suing a foreign government in Federal Court.
Finally, this lawsuit opens the Democrats up to some discovery that would be potentially destructive. What if Seth Rich or another DNC insider was the leaker? What about the credibility of Crowdstrike? What about the Awan family's role in this whole mess?
This entire suit is evidence that Mueller's criminal witch hunt will produce nothing that implicates or even damages Trump. Otherwise, why spend money and resources for a lawsuit?
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:21 pm to JudgeHolden
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The only other possibility is that he goes down for tax fraud or money laundering if Cohen turns on him. But I am not sure they could prosecute him for that while he is president.
They might get him on OOJ. But I doubt it. HH and Jr though are fricked. Maybe Kush.
Don't discount trump going down on FCPA, although those can be hard to prove. But cohen plus transactions plus recipient of bribe could do it.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:21 pm to deltaland
Or... They just want to keep “Trump + Russia + Collusion” in the headlines as long as possible.
Without this lawsuit when mueller is done the narrative starts to fade, now the narrative won’t have to die when the investigation does. The media can “keep the conversation going”
Without this lawsuit when mueller is done the narrative starts to fade, now the narrative won’t have to die when the investigation does. The media can “keep the conversation going”
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:22 pm to skrayper
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The Clinton tactic - get them for lying on something completely irrelevant. Just like Bill, if it does happen, not much will come of it.
I don't remember Brother Bill lying to the FBI. He lied under oath in a state court deposition, right?
Posted on 4/20/18 at 2:24 pm to deltaland
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Just playing devils advocate: it's possible the Dems got wind that Muellers report will be bad for the Trump campaign associates, but not Trump himself, thus the lawsuit. Maybe they think they will have a strong case?
If this were the case, IMO, it would be much more damaging to make that move once the report comes out. Right now, it looks like desperation. If they already know the results, file the suit once the report comes out, you'll have huge public support (assuming it came out how they wanted it).
They really gain nothing from doing it before it comes out. seems more like a move to try and get some type of settlement or pandering in the media first, before news they don't want coming out.
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