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re: GOP rep: Comey memos may bolster Trump defense against collusion charges

Posted on 4/17/18 at 7:04 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48636 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 7:04 pm to
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That reads like they know the charges are coming.


Mueller stated that trump isn't a criminal target. So which charges are you referring to?
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 7:06 pm to
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Let me put it in a different manner for you so you are not confused


I’m doing the same for you.

It reads like they’re readying a defense. Why would they worry about stuff like this if they don’t think any charges will be filed?

You read it one way, I read it the other.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 7:07 pm to
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I don't think they'll get the memos.


I think they are going to get the memos. I bet they are redacted though.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147266 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 7:18 pm to
no, things sent to them don't have to be redacted. they may have to be read in SCIF. Redactions are for public release.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22817 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 7:29 pm to
What exactly is Mueller doing? At this point they have proven that the whole initial Special Counsel was over nothing.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147266 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 7:37 pm to
Some women may have been paid off. Sessions may have spoke with the fat Russian that democrats had sit with them. Stormy ain't going away because every other whore-bait got caught getting paid by HRC. They are going to make Stormy stick if they have to keep slinging crap until the end of days.

IT WAS HER TURN, OBAMA STOLE IT FROM HER. and Kasich wants to run.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 7:44 pm to
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Some women may have been paid off.


May have been paid off?

I think the record shows that women were paid off.

quote:

Sessions may have spoke with the fat russian


May have spoke with them?

I think the record shows that he did indeed speak with them.

That’s why he recused himself.

Stormy has become the vessel. The darkness will now come to light.

Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 7:48 pm to
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The one member of Congress that I know who has seen them — without sharing the contents — has told me


LO f’ingL. There goes those leaks again.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147266 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 7:51 pm to
You misunderstood my post. The sexual accusers that accused Trump were paid off.

Who Is Susie Tompkins Buell? Clinton Donor Gave $500,000 to Fund Trump Sexual Misconduct Accusers-Newsweek
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14230 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 8:04 pm to
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"The one member of Congress that I know who has seen them — without sharing the contents — has told me that they would be Exhibit A in Donald Trump’s defense to any charges against collusion with the Russians," Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-Texas) told Fox News on Monday
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i know you are only the messenger here, but how could a member of congress have seen the memo when they haven't been released.

And how could Comey's memos of his meetings with Trump possibly shed light on the "collusion" matter?

They might have some bearing on the "obstruction" aspect, because Trump's interaction with Comey are part of the issue, but the Russian/Trump matter, I don't see how.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140697 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 8:07 pm to
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The darkness will now come to light. 


So THIS is IT?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14230 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 8:19 pm to
There is no way the Comey memos should be released.

They are part of an ongoing investigation and the DOJ/FBI, if they are doing their jobs, should tell the 3 gentlemen to pound sand.

Of course Trump wants to see what is in Comey's memos so he can have his White House spin team explain away any troublesome portions of the memos, just like they have done when Trump has tweeted one of his faux paws in the past.

It would be akin to allowing a witness in court to observe a opposition witness testify before the observing witness testifies.

If they give up the memos without a fight, then the fix in on.



Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14230 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 8:47 pm to
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Why would Trump need to see memos of he and Comeys discussions? He knows what he did or didn't say to Comey. And Comey could've written down any bs he wanted to- it'd be his word against Trumps. And guess who is already a known LIAR, even UNDER OATH? Like Trump gives a damn about those memos.

As I posted above, Trump wants the memos (which is why the Republican lawmakers are requesting them now) so that Trump can prepare and tailor his testimony in the event he gives testimony to Mueller, in order to minimize the effects of any misstatements Trump may have made in his conversations with Comey, as they are so reflected in Comey's notes.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:00 pm to
If it isn’t obvious to any of you Trumpkins, and it’s plainly not. Either that or you’ve all collectively buried your heads in the sand.

Trump knows he’s fricked.

He’s pulling moves via Cohens lawyers to try and figure out just how much he’s fricked.

This is what people who know they’ve been pinned do. It’s an old tactic, how do I get the data I need so I can see where I sit when it’s time to make a deal.

You bet the bank on a shyster, a man who’s been a rube his entire life. It’s finally caught up to him, and he’s communicating to you via his counsels counsel, that he knows the gig is up.

He did just what you said he’d do. He exposed the truth.

Ironically, it’s not the truth that you’ve been propagandized to believe.

And honestly, I don’t feel sorry for any of you. You guys paid for this, and burned the receipt.

You can all kindly frick off when it’s all said and done.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:03 pm to
Bookmarked. Solid melt, bro
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14230 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

There will never be any "collusion" charges because there never was any "collusion" and it wouldn't be illegal anyway.

You got it buttoned up pretty tight, eh?

How about any conspiracy charges, which don't require that the object of the conspiracy comes to fruition?

How about the campaign accepting something of value from foreign nationals (Russians) in he form of advertisements and voter data (and maybe even stolen emails).

How about abuse of power in attempting to thwart the Russia investigation -- the latest example of which being Trump calling Cohen right after Trump had pardoned Scooter Libby. (You think they might have discussed a similar pardon for Cohen? What other reason would Trump have for pardoning Libby? And why was Trump in such a hurry he didn't submit a request for the pardon to the DOJ?)
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147266 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:10 pm to
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If it isn’t obvious to any of you Trumpkins, and it’s plainly not. Either that or you’ve all collectively buried your heads in the sand.

Trump knows he’s fricked.

He’s pulling moves via Cohens lawyers to try and figure out just how much he’s fricked.

This is what people who know they’ve been pinned do. It’s an old tactic, how do I get the data I need so I can see where I sit when it’s time to make a deal.

You bet the bank on a shyster, a man who’s been a rube his entire life. It’s finally caught up to him, and he’s communicating to you via his counsels counsel, that he knows the gig is up.

He did just what you said he’d do. He exposed the truth.

Ironically, it’s not the truth that you’ve been propagandized to believe.

And honestly, I don’t feel sorry for any of you. You guys paid for this, and burned the receipt.

You can all kindly frick off when it’s all said and done.
This is why it is so divisive. Pure ignorance and lack of common sense on your side of the sad game of politics.

If you were a billionaire who happened to be the President of the United States; that had the former political party spy on you --before you were even elected-- and create lies and utilize the FISA court to spy on you.

Had the MSM campaigning for the other party. Your lawyer was raided at dawn with his door taken down over some attention whore that has nothing to do with Russia.

You can bet your sweet arse your lawyers would file to gain access to evidence. Even if you weren't a billionaire President they should.

Obama used executive privilege with AG Holder. Imagine a democrat Presidents attorney raided, would you care then?
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 9:14 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14230 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

You bet the bank on a shyster, a man who’s been a rube his entire life. It’s finally caught up to him, and he’s communicating to you via his counsels counsel, that he knows the gig is up.

This reminds me of something I saw online (I wish I could claim it).

Make

Attorneys

Get

Attorneys
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

You can bet your sweet arse your lawyers would file to gain access to evidence.


And lose. Which speaks volumes.

quote:

Imagine a Democrats attorney being raided, would you care then?


Absolutely, I’d realize that the guy is fricked. If the presidents attorney is being served with a warrant from the federal government, then there’s some shite going down.

Let me ask you this.

If Clinton had won, and she had a special counsel on her, and that counsel uncovered evidence regarding her counsel and it was forwarded to the FBI, and a Federal Warrant was obtained, and counsel was arrested, and then during their arraignment it was exposed that Rachel Maddow retained the same counsel, would you be sitting here singing the tune you’re singing for your boy?

Probably not.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 9:38 pm to
I thought it was...

My

Attorney

Got

Arrested

But I think we’re one in the same here.
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