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Posted on 4/14/18 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 1:55 pm to
Sorry... I live in 2018... I do not know what will happen next year but with Coach O and E I do not have faith LSU is going in the right direction. If they prove me wrong fine, I won't complain but until they do I don't buy it.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20363 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 2:00 pm to
I could have sworn you posted on here saying that O would never promote Steve E to OC right after the Canada being fired rumors were heating up.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 2:11 pm to
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I could have sworn you posted on here saying that O would never promote Steve E to OC right after the Canada being fired rumors were heating up


I may have, I don't remember saying it. If I did it was probably based on the fact that Slinger had said he didn't want the position the previous year. I normally don't speak in absolutes about stuff like that. I tend to believe that anything can happen, especially when it comes to people. Numbers are absolute, humans are not.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 2:24 pm to
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I do not have faith LSU is going in the right direction


Is it the support staff that is finally being hired?

The depth that is being built on the offensive and defensive lines?

The new staff hires - Cregg, Sullivan, McMahon or Faulk?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204332 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 2:37 pm to
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Tiger Ree



You really think this program is going in the right direction...........
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 2:47 pm to
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You really think this program is going in the right direction...........


Yes, haven't seen anything since the Troy game to think otherwise.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 2:48 pm to
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tduecen: I don't have faith LSU is going in the right direction


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Is it the support staff that is finally being hired?


quote:

The depth that is being built on the offensive and defensive lines?


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The new staff hires - Cregg, Sullivan, McMahon or Faulk?


I don't have faith that LSU is going in the right direction either. But for me it's just the fact that o is the man in charge.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 2:52 pm to
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I don't have faith that LSU is going in the right direction either. But for me it's just the fact that o is the man in charge.


Even though he is the one responsible for the changes you quoted in your post?
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 2:55 pm to
No I didn't.


Liar.
You lie.
You're stupid plus you lie.

Not a good combo.
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 2:56 pm to
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Is it the support staff that is finally being hired?
Last year LSU had a better coaching staff

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The depth that is being built on the offensive and defensive lines?

LSU had plenty of depth prior to last year, many left after O was named. That is/was his issue, I will not blame Les for that like many seem to do.
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46652 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 3:00 pm to
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Damn that went WAY over your head.... You already asked REE and Justice was making a fool out of you by asking the same question.... 



no he wasnt. my god.

justice and i have never gotten into it and we usually agree. your lack of reading comprehension is again showing itself.
justice asked tigeree because he never answers the question.
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 3:06 pm
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 3:02 pm to
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Even though he is the one responsible for the changes you quoted in your post?


That's right. Hell, all of last years off-season you posted and bragged about all of the coaching changes o made after Miles was fired like firing Cameron and after the season firing the coaches that he did and hiring the "only OC Broyles award finalist" and look where that got us.

9-4 in a year where the schedule was as easy as it had been in years. All these changes but one thing stays the same, o is still the head coach. I fully expect him to frick something up like he has in every other year as the man in charge.

That's what his history as a head coach has proven so far. Until it stops happening, there is no reason not to expect it.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46652 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 3:04 pm to
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WHOA... You have said yourself those same EXCUSES after Miles lost players to the draft and had to start young inexperiences players... THOSE were your excuses for Miles...........


never once. i said miles had unacceptable losses. its like you dont read anything i post and you just keep regurgitating shite
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 3:09 pm to
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Last year LSU had a better coaching staff


With no special teams coach last year? And Mickey Joseph being the only WR coach? And Corey having to coach safeties and CB's? Grimes and Cregg could be a push but I don't think there will be a dropoff.

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LSU had plenty of depth prior to last year, many left after O was named


The only players who left were offensive linemen. I have already posted a link to why I believe that happened. Of the O-line that left the only big loss was Teuhema.

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That is was his issue, I will not blame Les for that like many seem to do.


The only players that left were Les' O-line recruits. Again there is an article posted that covers this.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 3:12 pm to
The players that left were Les recruits... They left after O was named... LSU had depth on the offensive line and defensive line prior to the season starting. The players started leaving, that is on O not Les. Yet people want to blame Les for leaving the cupboards bare.... Yes I believe LSU had a better coaching staff last year, I don't care about special team coach
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46652 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

didn't. 


Liar. 
You lie. 
You're stupid plus you lie. 

Not a good combo.



you said lsu scoring 30 unanswered points against a mid major to take the lead was luck
(thats what happened in 2008)
you said lsu coming back from 17 down to beat the sec west champ was skill under O.


wanna guess how many times lsu has scored 30 unanswered points against a mid major?
wanna guess how many times lsu has come back from down 17 to beat the sec west champ?



1 instance has happened lots of times
the other has happened 1 time
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 3:14 pm to
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hiring the "only OC Broyles award finalist" and look where that got us.


9-3 regular season and a bowl game against Notre Dame.

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9-4 in a year where the schedule was as easy as it had been in years


LSU played over 30 freshmen. Were they stronger than they had been in years?

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All these changes but one thing stays the same, o is still the head coach


Brilliant

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I fully expect him to frick something up like he has in every other year as the man in charge.


Great outlook for no reason other than to be miserable about something.
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That's what his history as a head coach has proven so far. Until it stops happening, there is no reason not to expect it


For a negative person I guess not. His history at LSU is a winning season and bowl game against Notre Dame while playing over 30 freshmen and starting 12 including two on the offensive line all in his first season as head coach. Not too bad of a history at LSU.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17911 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 3:18 pm to
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If you think the FACT that LSU played over 30 freshmen while starting two on the O-line for the majority of the season is an EXCUSE, go for it.


Boo fricking hoo. Considering how many major teams play a lot of freshman and probably START more than LSU, then this absolutely is an excuse, especially when your opponent is Troy.

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winning season and bowl game against Notre Dame.


You’re a joke of a fan if this is all it takes to satisfy you.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17911 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 3:24 pm to
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His history at LSU is a winning season and bowl game against Notre Dame while playing over 30 freshmen and starting 12 including two on the offensive line all in his first season as head coach.


Again, you’re a puss if think this is anywhere close to where LSU’s standards need to be. What the frick is the big deal about playing Notre Dame in a bowl game? Because they used to be great a long time ago? We’ve been a stronger program than them for years now and it’s a disappointment having lost to them twice in a row.

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Brilliant


The fuq does this even mean?

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And Mickey Joseph being the only WR coach? And Corey having to coach safeties and CB's?


You talk about this like it put LSU at a supreme disadvantage. How many other teams do you know that have 2 WR coaches and 2 DB coaches?
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 3:33 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 3:32 pm to
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Boo fricking hoo. Considering how many major teams play a lot of freshman and probably START more than LSU, then this absolutely is an excuse, especially when your opponent is Troy.


Here is some info from the LSU website:
https://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=211151291

this is about true freshmen and doesn't take into account the redshirt freshmen. And only through the first seven games of the season.

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True Freshmen Continue to Play Big Roles at LSU
* So far this season, 20 true freshmen have played for the Tigers, which is tied for the most in the nation after seven weeks of the season.
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* With Charles' start against BYU, he became the first true freshman to start a season opener on the offensive line since at least World War II.
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* LSU's eight true freshmen starters in 2017 are the most since at least 2005
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* The four true freshmen (Charles, Chaisson, Taylor and Delpit) who started the season opener matched the total number between 2000-16.
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* The four true freshmen starters were the most in the nation to start the 2017 season
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* Against BYU, 17 true freshmen saw action for the most by an LSU team in a season opener since at least 1995.
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* The following is a list of true freshmen who have played this season: QB Myles Brennan, TE/F Tory Carter, LB K’Lavon Chaisson, RG Saahdiq Charles, OG Austin Deculus, FS Grant Delpit, RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire, DE Neil Farrell Jr., S Todd Harris Jr., OG Ed Ingram, WR Justin Jefferson, CB Jontre Kirklin, WR Racey McMath, WR Mannie Netherly, LB Jacob Phillips, LB Patrick Queen, WR JaCoby Stevens, LB Tyler Taylor, DE Justin Thomas, CB Kary Vincent Jr.
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Twenty-One First-Time Starters So Far in 2017
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Most True Freshmen Starters by Year Since 2005
2017
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