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re: Reuters: Older educated white voters who voted for Trump are now leaning toward Democrats
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:14 pm to Bench McElroy
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:14 pm to Bench McElroy
Wrong!
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:15 pm to NikolaiJakov
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A) Shows you this oversampled Democrats
B) FREE Health care is their primary concern. Otherwise, they'd still be solid Republican.
If you don't think health care is the primary concern of 60+ year olds regardless of affiliation, you can't be helped.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:16 pm to mmmmmbeeer
I think this isn't so much about these voters swinging to the democrats, but more so about older white democrats being MORE LIKELY to vote in 2018.
Polls measure those who indicate they are voting in 2018. It could be that republican older white educated voters, upset with trump, are just not going to turn out. Doesn't mean they are switching to dems.
Look at 2010 and 2014. Groups didn't "SWING" to the GOP, dems just simply sat out.
Polls measure those who indicate they are voting in 2018. It could be that republican older white educated voters, upset with trump, are just not going to turn out. Doesn't mean they are switching to dems.
Look at 2010 and 2014. Groups didn't "SWING" to the GOP, dems just simply sat out.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:16 pm to themunch
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They did not poll me.
Toddy was disappointed that he did not get poled.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:17 pm to slackster
quote:these people should be the LEAST concerned about health care costs. They have medicare.
If you don't think health care is the primary concern of 60+ year olds regardless of affiliation, you can't be helped.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:17 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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Blue hair wave, incoming!!! ?
Fify
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:18 pm to Bench McElroy
Huh?
I've doubled down baws.
I've doubled down baws.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
I think this isn't so much about these voters swinging to the democrats, but more so about older white democrats being MORE LIKELY to vote in 2018.
Polls measure those who indicate they are voting in 2018. It could be that republican older white educated voters, upset with trump, are just not going to turn out. Doesn't mean they are switching to dems.
Look at 2010 and 2014. Groups didn't "SWING" to the GOP, dems just simply sat out.
Neither the IPSOS or Reuters link state if these were likely voters or registered voters.....just says "adults". AKA, the least informative polls taken, regardless of sample demographics.
I fully expect a 'blue wave' this November but if Dems win 65+ educated voters nationally, I'll eat my shoe.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:25 pm to Bench McElroy
Doubtful
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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these people should be the LEAST concerned about health care costs. They have medicare.
, you're aware they still pay a shite ton in medical expenses, right? Who do you think pays more, on average, for health care costs- 60+ year olds or people younger than 60?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:28 pm to mmmmmbeeer
My apologies, beer. I assumed something I shouldn't have.
Maybe response rates are skewed though?
Another note of caution is that "generic dem" is not the same as a specific dem. These older white voters may be fine voting for a "generic dem", but if a specific liberal dem is on the ballot, the story may be different.
Maybe response rates are skewed though?
Another note of caution is that "generic dem" is not the same as a specific dem. These older white voters may be fine voting for a "generic dem", but if a specific liberal dem is on the ballot, the story may be different.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:29 pm to slackster
quote:And they also have by far the highest net worths.
, you're aware they still pay a shite ton in medical expenses, right?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:33 pm to Bench McElroy
fake news
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:37 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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My apologies, beer. I assumed something I shouldn't have.
Maybe response rates are skewed though?
Another note of caution is that "generic dem" is not the same as a specific dem. These older white voters may be fine voting for a "generic dem", but if a specific liberal dem is on the ballot, the story may be different.
All good.
Man, I don't even buy the "generic dem" if IPSOS/Reuters had polled likely voters. Dems just don't ever win with older white folks and, as much as I personally despise Trump and the current iteration of the GOP, I have ZERO faith that that voting trend will change any time soon...at least not until the Boomers essentially die out.
I appreciate your optimism for us but, yeah man, not happening
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:37 pm to Bench McElroy
I call bull shite.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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And they also have by far the highest net worths
And? I can't believe we're arguing over whether or not health care costs are the biggest concern of 60+ year olds. I thought that was common knowledge.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:40 pm to Bench McElroy
Sure...
I believe it.
I believe it.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:40 pm to Bench McElroy
On the contrary, I have resolved to never vote for a Democrat again - for any office, anywhere!
Posted on 4/9/18 at 11:02 pm to Bench McElroy
I hate statistics and polls
How a person answers a question in a poll is not accurate poll unless it is a huge difference.
Just because Trump has 41% approval rating does not mean that people who don’t approve with his job approval will not vote for him.
It may hurt republicans overall, but things may change over the next 6 months.
This is not just going to hurt republicans, but all politicians.
How a person answers a question in a poll is not accurate poll unless it is a huge difference.
Just because Trump has 41% approval rating does not mean that people who don’t approve with his job approval will not vote for him.
It may hurt republicans overall, but things may change over the next 6 months.
This is not just going to hurt republicans, but all politicians.
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 4/9/18 at 11:11 pm to Bench McElroy
They could probably have also found folks who voted democrat who are now leaning Republican, but I’m sure they didn’t look.
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