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re: Your most hated good movie?

Posted on 4/8/18 at 3:19 am to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/8/18 at 3:19 am to
I think Citizen Kane suffers from the fact that everyone who has seen it for the first time in the last few decades already knows the ending thanks to the internet and it showing up #1 on every greatest movies poll. Given the entire premise of the movie is figuring out what "Rosebud" means, it kinda takes the suspense and ultimate emotional payoff away if you know it before hand.

It's like knowing the ending of Seven or The Usual Suspects. Yeah they're well made movies, but the final reveal is what makes them legendary.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:00 pm to
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I think Citizen Kane suffers from the fact that everyone who has seen it for the first time in the last few decades already knows the ending thanks to the internet and it showing up #1 on every greatest movies poll. Given the entire premise of the movie is figuring out what "Rosebud" means, it kinda takes the suspense and ultimate emotional payoff away if you know it before hand.

It's like knowing the ending of Seven or The Usual Suspects. Yeah they're well made movies, but the final reveal is what makes them legendary.


I didn’t know about it the first time I watched it, and I really don’t think it hurts the film at all knowing about it. The only thing that could possibly make sense even if it wasn’t revealed would be something that returned him to childhood innocence. It pretty much openly shows itself near the beginning with the “Everything you hate” comment Kane made. Rosebud is merely a catalyst just to get the plot going, not some great twist.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/8/18 at 2:19 pm to
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I think Citizen Kane suffers from the fact that everyone who has seen it for the first time in the last few decades already knows the ending thanks to the internet and it showing up #1 on every greatest movies poll. Given the entire premise of the movie is figuring out what "Rosebud" means, it kinda takes the suspense and ultimate emotional payoff away if you know it before hand.

It's like knowing the ending of Seven or The Usual Suspects. Yeah they're well made movies, but the final reveal is what makes them legendary.


Citizen Kane is famous mainly for reasons other than the actual story being told, which means that most people who see it (outside of a film studies class) are going to come away wondering why it’s considered one of the greatest movies ever.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/8/18 at 2:42 pm to
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I think Citizen Kane suffers from the fact that everyone who has seen it for the first time in the last few decades already knows the ending thanks to the internet and it showing up #1 on every greatest movies poll. Given the entire premise of the movie is figuring out what "Rosebud" means, it kinda takes the suspense and ultimate emotional payoff away if you know it before hand.

It's like knowing the ending of Seven or The Usual Suspects. Yeah they're well made movies, but the final reveal is what makes them legendary.



Very much agree w/this.

For example, if I had known the ending of The Game going in there is no way I would have liked it as much as I did b/c all of the suspense would have been gone.


As for a "good" movies I hate... I really don't understand this board's love for Prometheus and Alien Covenant. Other than some really great looking CG in certain parts I thought both were terrible and had some of the most idiotic characters in Sci Fi I have ever seen.
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 2:50 pm
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/8/18 at 7:42 pm to
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I think Citizen Kane suffers from the fact that everyone who has seen it for the first time in the last few decades already knows the ending thanks to the internet and it showing up #1 on every greatest movies poll. Given the entire premise of the movie is figuring out what "Rosebud" means, it kinda takes the suspense and ultimate emotional payoff away if you know it before hand.

It's like knowing the ending of Seven or The Usual Suspects. Yeah they're well made movies, but the final reveal is what makes them legendary.


So true

My wife & I watched it for the 1st time ever this past year. We didn't know ending, and we were very entertained. For such an old flick, it delivers...
Posted by lsutigertalk
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Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 4:58 pm to
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I think Citizen Kane suffers from the fact that everyone who has seen it for the first time in the last few decades already knows the ending thanks to the internet and it showing up #1 on every greatest movies poll. Given the entire premise of the movie is figuring out what "Rosebud" means, it kinda takes the suspense and ultimate emotional payoff away if you know it before hand. It's like knowing the ending of Seven or The Usual Suspects. Yeah they're well made movies, but the final reveal is what makes them legendary.

Watched it and didn’t have the ending spoiled. The movie suffers from age and how far technology comes. Touch of Evil is a much better story yet Citizen Kane is so much more highly recognized. It was the technological improvements that made it so great at the time and it is hard to recapture perspective on how great it was for the time.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 5:00 pm
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