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re: a conservative defense of Mrs. Obama (the over-the-top attacks on PT)

Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:14 pm to
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Proof?

She has never been photographed pregnant before.

Borrowed parents you mean:

Wait a minute. There is now a conspiracy theory that Michelle didn't have kids?
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:15 pm to
K.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162295 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:17 pm to
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Wait...so people should bite their tongue, because people who vote differently are ignorant and will take offense? Have I summed up your sentiment appropriately?


No. I think he is saying that throwing the n word around at a football tailgate like it's a Nerf football and posting pics online comparing Michelle to a primate doesn't exactly help counter the Democratic narrative that conservatives are racist. For being an attorney you're not exactly the most perceptive motherfricker.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:20 pm to
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The left began calling themselves progressive, it wasn't a term hoisted upon them.



That's precisely what I said, man. We started calling ourselves progressives so that we wouldn't have to say liberal....imminently dealing with oh-so-witty retorts like "libtard".
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:22 pm to
The only political party in America that is liberal is the libertarian party.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:31 pm to
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The only political party in America that is liberal is the libertarian party.


In the classical sense, absolutely.

It's really annoying having to keep track of the history of some of these labels. I mean the fact that the Democrats and Republicans essentially swapped parties in the 20th century is completely lost on a lot of people. I think it's intentional, sometimes....keep people confused to create such a mess that you REALLY have to be truly interested in political thought to comprehend the history and how it does, or doesn't, apply today.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69492 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:36 pm to
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. I mean the fact that the Democrats and Republicans essentially swapped parties in the 20th century is completely lost on a lot of people
This is a pretty large over-generalization.

White southerners switched parties, but in many areas of the north, the areas where republicans today are strongest were where they were strongest a long time ago, as well.

It really isn't even worth comparing our parties to what was going on 100 years ago. Parties are much more ideological today. The GOP is clearly the more conservative party, and democrats are clearly the more left-wing party.

A long time ago, there were no such ideological lines. The parties were more based on region, economic interest, heritage, etc. There were lots of liberal republicans and conservative democrats.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 4/8/18 at 7:29 am to
Michelle is a racist easily recognized
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/8/18 at 7:34 am to
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That's precisely what I said, man. We started calling ourselves progressives so that we wouldn't have to say liberal....imminently dealing with oh-so-witty retorts like "libtard".


Liberals >>> Progressives.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 7:36 am to
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"Progressive" is a term made up by liberals


Absolutely not. It's an entirely different concept and is the more authoritarian arm of the left wing.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48361 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 7:40 am to
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That's precisely what I said, man. We started calling ourselves progressives so that we wouldn't have to say liberal....imminently dealing with oh-so-witty retorts like "libtard".


Which is an enormous exercise in political ignorance as progressivism is an ideology totally separate and apart from American social liberalism.

Basically, the left hijacked a political term that already contained substantive meaning and redefined it for the sake of political convenience. It would be totally ignorant if it wasn't also incredibly egotistical.

And this is my problem with the left both in America and historical. It preys upon the politically ignorant for power and then allows that ignorance to run wild in name of holding that power.


ETA: In terms of the OP, I agree with the premise. The personal criticism of Michelle is ridiculous. It's the opposite side of the political worship coin. The creepiest and sickest trend in American politics is political worship; its ugly sister is personally attacking the family of the opposition.
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 7:43 am
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