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re: Whatever happened to the planned dredging of University & City Park Lakes?
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:02 pm to jimbeam
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:02 pm to jimbeam
They pump a polymer as they dredge into a huge bag that holds the hardened sludge and allows the clean water to return back to the lake. They just finished up a job doing this in part of False River.
Seems logical they could do this on a contract basis and spread the expense out over time. That's how some of the golf courses do it so they stay maintained.
Seems logical they could do this on a contract basis and spread the expense out over time. That's how some of the golf courses do it so they stay maintained.
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:03 pm to upgrayedd
quote:well it is mostly suspended organics. And the most efficient way to deal with that is rapid draw down. You expose it to oxygen and it decays. You could easily gain a few feet of depth doing this.
You'd really have to install a pipeline for sediment disposal. There's no way you could dewater and truck that out in any sort of efficient way.
Bad thing is though it takes a while, and it isn't pleasant smelling. So sell that to the people with Million dollar homes around the lakes.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:06 pm to Big Pun
Sure. That’s also expensive as shite and we’re taking about a likely 7 figure volume here.
Moral: progress ain’t happening for a while.
Moral: progress ain’t happening for a while.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 9/25/19 at 12:50 am to schwartzy
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That will be a total shitshow if it happens. Please don't ruin or make unsightly one of the only pretty things in Baton Rouge.
Don't worry bro, the bodies you dumped there in the 90s are all but sludge by now.
Unless if you sent them into the murky depths inside their beloved automobiles. Then maybe you should expect some knocks on your door...
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 12:55 am
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:07 am to upgrayedd
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You'd really have to install a pipeline for sediment disposal. There's no way you could dewater and truck that out in any sort of efficient way.
dump that shite in the river less than 2 miles away
frick that dirt
Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:59 am to CarRamrod
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So sell that to the people with Million dollar homes around the lakes.
I drove passed the lakes today...I wouldn't pay much for any house that had that view...out the front or back. That's some nasty looking stuff right there.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 4:36 am to TigerBR1111
O/U on bodies this would net?
Posted on 9/25/19 at 5:35 am to SlackMaster
quote:
Where do you get this figure?
From the post that I replied to which was 2 posts above mine. In the interest of full disclosure, I have not done my DD on the final costs, nor have I generated an environmental impact statement. I have only seen what I have read in this thread.
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The estimates came in at $40-45 million ( WAFB) and this includes many cosmetic upgrades such as running/walking paths, lighting, et
Estimates are so cute. Unfortunately they have zero to do with the final costs. Every stump found changes the final total.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 6:56 am to Hangit
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Estimates are so cute. Unfortunately they have zero to do with the final costs. Every stump found changes the final total.
I agree "as is" conditions often override estimates and sometimes significantly. But by 4.5 times? That's a bit of a stretch.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 7:59 am to Hangit
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Estimates are so cute. Unfortunately they have zero to do with the final costs. Every stump found changes the final total.
The majority of stumps were removed from University Lake and City Park Lake when it was dredged in the early 80’s. They were ground onsite and trucked off.
A lot of the sediment will be used to build shoreline around the lakes to reduce freight costs and build up eroded areas. Most probably an island or two will be built as well for the same reason.
And the $40-$45 million is a hell of a lot closer than the “hundreds of millions” being mentioned. The discussions have always been to find a variety of entities for funding ie. city, state, LSU, BREC, federal including grants, private donations and private foundations.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 8:28 am to Martini
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And the $40-$45 million is a hell of a lot closer than the “hundreds of millions” being mentioned. The discussions have always been to find a variety of entities for funding ie. city, state, LSU, BREC, federal including grants, private donations and private foundations.
A 40-45 million dollar project is a different story. It can and should be done with BREC doing the heavy lifting.
I still think there’s an opportunity here to design the project and incorporate flood control. The lakes could be dug deeper than they were back in the 80s and with proper design a level control structure could be used to allow a significant “reservoir” to collect water during hard rains.
The outflow at Bayou Duplantier could be redesigned if the elevations work or s pumping station installed if they do not.
This might allow federal flow control dollars to pay for some of the project.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 9:11 am to doubleb
history of the lakes
quote:
In 1933, four separate donors gave LSU a tupelo cypress swamp next to the campus. The campus itself had been relocated from State Capitol Grounds seven years earlier. The donors had a stipulation: LSU was to turn the swamps into lakes and parks for public use, and keep them so forever.
Hundreds of men employed by the Works Progress Administration, a federal agency created during the Great Depression, dug University Lake from that swamp in the mid-1930s. They also built a sewer system that let LSU claim land for Sorority Row, and formed land for roads that surround the lakes.
The work of those 900 men removed the threat of malaria-bearing mosquitoes, and created a public space that would be cherished by tens of thousands of people who came after them.
Nature has been taking back the lakes since then. Local government slowed the return to swampland by having University Lake dredged in the early-1980s. But the job was inadequate; the lakes are silting up again.
A new generation of philanthropists and residents have pledged to preserve the lakes, and to make them a great space for many more decades. A pivotal step is the master plan.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 9:28 am to ForeverEllisHugh
quote:
O/U on bodies this would net?
zero, you aren't hiding a body in the lsu lakes
Posted on 9/25/19 at 9:31 am to Erebus
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-real estate values would crash for a decade until it was done.
The lakes being covered in thick red algae can't exactly help real estate values at the moment either. I drove through there a few days ago and it looks horrible
Posted on 9/25/19 at 9:32 am to sec13rowBBseat28
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 8:56 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
Two great posts. Thanks.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 9:28 pm to Commandeaux
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state matching funds.
Bro do you even surplus?
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:34 pm to Martini
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:53 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
Maybe Lil Boosie and NBA Youngbleed can headline the opening ceremonies to that stage thing.
In all seriousness, the lakes have been one of the few things that BR has managed to keep nice and safe, for the most part. I hope they can come together and restore them. Those pictures are very enlightening days long ago. Could you imagine LSU without the lakes? Me either.
In all seriousness, the lakes have been one of the few things that BR has managed to keep nice and safe, for the most part. I hope they can come together and restore them. Those pictures are very enlightening days long ago. Could you imagine LSU without the lakes? Me either.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:25 am to sec13rowBBseat28
I know those are only renderings, but they are awesome.
I'd love to see those plans come to fruition.
I'd love to see those plans come to fruition.
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