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re: Karen Carter Peterson’s Anti-Child Marriage Bill Hurts The Cause More Than It Helps
Posted on 3/29/18 at 7:38 pm to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 3/29/18 at 7:38 pm to TheCaterpillar
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There is absolutely no law anywhere that says your little bigot church will ever have to marry gay people in the eyes of your lord.
Why is it okay for you to shite in his religious beliefs but not okay that he is against gay marriage?
I have no dog in this fight, but it’s sad what atheists and agnostics resort to in order to get their point across. It’s okay to have different beliefs and morals in this country.
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Posted on 3/29/18 at 7:43 pm to tigercross
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Edit: what do you think the current marriage age is in LA? 16 year old girls can consent to frick under state law. Why shouldn’t they be allowed to marry??
They can't marry without parental consent.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 7:47 pm to mdomingue
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They can't marry without parental consent
So you’re saying there are protections keeping 12 year olds out of marriages with lecherous old men? In fact, perhaps a court has to sign off on the marriage if either party is younger than 16?
Because OP seems to believe there are no protections and this bill would be the only barrier protecting the myriad children from being forced into marriages.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 8:01 pm to DCtiger1
I wasn’t even replying to him. It’s a generic “your”.
If your church is actively fighting legislation that legalizes gay marriage in the eyes of just the law, which has absolutely zero impact on the church or beliefs, than it is a bigoted church.
If your church is actively fighting legislation that legalizes gay marriage in the eyes of just the law, which has absolutely zero impact on the church or beliefs, than it is a bigoted church.
This post was edited on 3/29/18 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 3/29/18 at 8:04 pm to tigercross
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So you’re saying there are protections keeping 12 year olds out of marriages with lecherous old men? In fact, perhaps a court has to sign off on the marriage if either party is younger than 16?
Actually, if I recall correctly, in Louisiana a person under the age of 18 but 16 years of age or older, needs the written consent of a parent or legal guardian to marry. Under 16, cannot get married in Louisiana as I understand it.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 8:08 pm to tommy2tone1999
What is a natural person? I’m guessing the legislator threw that in there so no one could marry an 18 year old tree, and the opposition will argue that being gay isn’t “natural”. And the Louisiana courts will spend thousands of dollars deciding this.
I’m conservative, but let gay people marry.
I’m conservative, but let gay people marry.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 8:08 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I wasn’t even replying to him. It’s a generic “your”.
If your church is actively fighting legislation that legalizes gay marriage in the eyes of just the law, which has absolutely zero impact on the church or beliefs, than it is a bigoted church.
I don’t understand the need to legislate based on religious beliefs. Everyone can agree that murder and theft not in the public interest, so we have laws against those things. Marriage is a contract. Why does it make sense to restrict adults from entering into a contract based on their sexual preference?
I understand, even if I don’t agree, that people might say “they’re going to hell for that!” Okay. As consenting adults, it is their right to go to hell. Should we outlaw everything that will send people to hell? Would this stop gay people from having sex? Wouldn’t it be worse if they were having sex outside of marriage?
Why are we trying to codify religious beliefs that harm no one?
Posted on 3/29/18 at 8:11 pm to TheCaterpillar
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If your church is actively fighting legislation that legalizes gay marriage in the eyes of just the law, which has absolutely zero impact on the church or beliefs, than it is a bigoted church.
That's crap. If your church feels homosexuality is a sin, it makes sense they would fight the legalization of gay marriage. If you treat homosexuality like it's a special sin, like worse than heterosexual sex outside of marriage, then you should really look in the mirror.
Personally, I see the need for the legal rights that the civil marriage contract allows a couple for gay couples as well. Many of us take for granted the ease with which we can handle end of life decisions, funeral arrangements, asset ownership changes and medical decisions as married couples. Don't have to think about or set any legal paperwork up other than the marriage license.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 8:16 pm to mdomingue
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That's crap. If your church feels homosexuality is a sin, it makes sense they would fight the legalization of gay marriage.
But why? Would criminalizing gay sex reduce the number of people who participate in the act? Gay people are going to frick, just like straight people. It is nature. If a church thinks that’s a sin, then fine. There are dozens of other biblical sins that are not illegal. Denying the right to marriage is just spiteful.
It seems like their efforts might be better spent on positive mesures to grow their congregations, work in their communities, and spread The Word. You catch more flies with honey and all that.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 8:25 pm to tigercross
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I understand, even if I don’t agree, that people might say “they’re going to hell for that!” Okay. As consenting adults, it is their right to go to hell. Should we outlaw everything that will send people to hell?
well look at it this way. We don't have to worry about eternal damnation anymore since the Pope declared that there is no hell. They can fornicate all they want and not have to worry about any pineapples up the arse in the after life.
I really don't understand why people get so damn bent out of shape over Gays fornicating, getting married and having kids. There plenty of hypocrites in all religious denominations that show and prove that gay aren't going to make religion crumble to the ground.
Society is fricked up because people are selfish, and have little to no morals.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 8:28 pm to Kracka
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well look at it this way. We don't have to worry about eternal damnation anymore since the Pope declared that there is no hell. They can fornicate all they want and not have to worry about any pineapples up the arse in the after life.
I really don't understand why people get so damn bent out of shape over Gays fornicating, getting married and having kids. There plenty of hypocrites in all religious denominations that show and prove that gay aren't going to make religion crumble to the ground.
Society is fricked up because people are selfish, and have little to no morals.
Even if you believe that homosexuality is a sin from which you cannot repent, why would banning gay marriage matter?
Posted on 3/29/18 at 8:37 pm to mdomingue
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If your church feels homosexuality is a sin, it makes sense they would fight the legalization of gay marriage.
It may make sense, but it has no place in policy. State, federal or otherwise. Any 2 humans of legal adult age should be able to legally get married with no input from anyone besides the witnesses and the local official overseeing the "wedding".
Nobody can force any church to marry people they don't see fit for marriage. They need to just worry about their own house and keep on keeping on. Preach to their flock, and mind their own business.
These same politicians and church officials who are out there throwing hissy fits over gay marriage are the same ones molesting kids, fricking fellow parishoners etc. They have no business fighting legal gay marriage.
That being said, gay couples who get married should be afforded the same rights and privileges that comes with conventional male/female marriages. There is no logical reason why it should be legal for anyone to have these rights and privileges denied to them because they are gay.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 8:43 pm to tigercross
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Even if you believe that homosexuality is a sin from which you cannot repent, why would banning gay marriage matter?
because it makes evangelicals feel good. Since the dawn of time, its made people feel good to look down their nose and point their fingers at people they feel are abominations or lesser humans.
I wouldn't consider myself religious. I am a Holiday Catholic, and I believe in the vast majority of their beliefs, but I do my best as a human to not let religious emotion dictate how I treat other people. Gay marriage hurts no one in the grand scheme of things.People have been gay since the dawn of time. The world hasn't burned yet. If it does, it won't be because people are gay.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 8:48 pm to tommy2tone1999
Being gay is a mental defect
Posted on 3/29/18 at 9:50 pm to DCtiger1
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Why is it okay for you to shite in his religious beliefs but not okay that he is against gay marriage?
This is a great point.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:25 pm to Ric Flair
Natural person is a legal term that simply means a human. It’s contrasted with a juridical entity, which is also treated as a separate thing under the law.
Boosie himself=natural person
Boosie’s Beats, LLC= juridical entity
Boosie himself=natural person
Boosie’s Beats, LLC= juridical entity
This post was edited on 3/29/18 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:27 pm to tigercross
Lol OP is dumb as frick
Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:28 pm to Ric Flair
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Ric Flair
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What is a natural person?
Come on, nature boy.
Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:34 pm to boosiebadazz
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Natural person is a legal term that simply means a human. It’s contrasted with a juridical entity, which is also treated as a separate thing under the law. Boosie himself=natural person Boosie’s Beats, LLC= juridical entity
I’m not sure if you’re familiar with the terrible poster ThePTEExperience1969 who mainly posts on MSB. But he recently revealed he is a 2 or 3L (at a TTT) and had never heard the term “juridical person” until SFP used it on the poli board
Posted on 3/29/18 at 11:36 pm to tigercross
I’m familiar with his work. Unique cat. I hope he’s a 2L who hasn’t taken business entities yet 
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