When Does LSU get an Elite Top 5 QB as a freshman???

We probably won’t until we hire someone who is a proven commodity at developing QBs as well as an offensive philosophy that supports qb play.

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It isn't the recruitment that's the issue, it's the development.

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Quad Brown. his coach has been told he has more talent than Jamarcus and Jameis Winston coming out.

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Top 5 QB? or Top 5 in the nation? Some years a QB isn't even in the top 5. Brennan was the #6 PRO QB in 2017 Narcisse was #9 DT QB in 2017 WITHOUT playing for 2 years Harris was the #3 DT QB in 2014 It isn't the recruitment that's the issue, it's the development.

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I talking about a Tua or a Shea Patterson type. Someone that is dam near ready the minute they set foot on campus.I'm not arguing that Coaching hasnt been a huge part of this but if a guy has talent then he can shine no matter what. They Said Tua was tearing it up in practice and that had Hurts not had such a great record Tua would have been starting in game 5. I know there are only a few of these guys every year but it sure would be nice to have another hodson or russell as a freshman. i mean look at bama and UGA a couple of true freshman lighting it up and Still have 2/3 years as starters

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or his qb this year.

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The QB that was forced into action before he was ready? There are certain intangibles one must possess, but day one starters are a rarity.

We've had them. Here is a list of guys we've gotten since 2003 in the top 15

2003 - #4 Pro (Russell) & #12 Pro (Flynn)
2005 - #1 Pro (Perriloux)
2007 - #10 Pro (Lee)
2008 - #11 Pro (Jefferson)
2009 - #1 Dual (Shep)
2013 - # 9 Pro style (Rettig) & #13 Pro (Jennings)
2014 - # 3 Dual (Harris)
2017 - #6 Pro (Brennan) & #9 Dual (Narcisse)

Last time we had this type of combo on the team it was Russell and Flynn. Let us pray.

It IS QB development. And Play calling. Under your argument LSU missed on 10-15 QB evaluations? That doesn’t make sense. Especially when the opposite happens all the time where QBs who were not highly rated end up in the NFL. Like Mayfield.

The constant with LSU QB problems is Les Miles. He denuetered his QBs to where they were so afraid of making a mistake they could never flourish. His playing not to lose mentality put handcuffs mentally and physically on his QBs.

The great QBs are gunslingers with great confidence. They are not afraid of turnovers or Interceptions. They play aggressively to win. Like Mayfield. That is the opposite of a Les Miles QB at LSU. They came in as gunslingers but like Barney Fife, Les Miles took their gun and bullets. He also took their confidence and swagger.

A good example of play calling affecting the play of players is Leonard Fournette against Bama. Les Miles play calling probably lost Fournette a Heisman. The same thing with QBs. Two runs up the middle and a Hail Mary on 3rd and long will make any QB look terrible. And even then the QB could only throw to 40% of the field. The other 60% was a no fly zone under Miles. No early plays to get the QB in a rhythm and confident.

Hodson wasn't ready the minute he got on campus. He redshirted his first year.

The small schools obviously developed them. So in that sense they were better coaching QBs than Miles and his QB coaches. If they were at that level in high school, I guarantee the big schools would have come calling.

Each of the coaches you list developed at least one excellent QB. Many developed multiple ones. How many did Miles develop? That’s the whole point. Coaching staffs have to develop QBs along with all other Positions. That’s a vital part of successful coaching. Players don’t arrive where no development is required. Especially QBs. To say Miles and staff were bad at evaluating QBs ignores the fact they did not develop even one excellent QB. Even a blind squirrel...