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What are our top needs in the draft in order?

Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:38 pm
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:38 pm
Mine are...

1. TE or Good coverage LB
2. The other of these two options
3. Best Pass Rusher available
4. Speed WR
5. Depth on the OL
6. Depth on the DL
7. BPA

Not sure if we have all these picks, but that’s my order by need. Try to snag another pass rusher or secondary help in free-agency.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 9:46 pm
Posted by ddbnsb
Raised in New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
3432 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:55 pm to
I agree with the needs.

Kinda depends on what we do in free agency as to who we draft.
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8489 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:57 pm to
Would be great to find a Fairley replacement in FA
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162009 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:27 pm to
You aren’t solving our TE issues with a rookie, more than likely. Last season’s was probably one of the best TE classes in a while and only 1 had much of an impact, engram, and he’s not really a true TE.

This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 10:28 pm
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70811 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:32 pm to
Yeah but the other two studs went to Cleveland and Tampa with the crazy/injured Jameis show and split time with another good TE.

Feel like either of those two guys could’ve had a pretty decent year with us. At least to the point where they’d be factors
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73904 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

Burton's 0.95 Reception Net Expected Points per target on 27 targets is the second-best rate among the 43 tight ends with at least 25 targets on the season, behind only Rob Gronkowski


Trey burton member the name JBird
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9460 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:41 pm to
I feel like TE is one of the easiest positions to transition to from college to the pros...

Jimmy was a college basketball player and had 1 year of TE experience.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22626 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 4:51 am to
1-A fundamentally sound tackler on defense
Posted by Lexman1
Central Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2002 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:26 am to
We have 8 draft picks, assuming we don’t trade up.(Which Payton and Loomis love to do.) Your list looks pretty accurate to me.
Posted by Lexman1
Central Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2002 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:31 am to
You’re probably right, BillJ. But we have to start somewhere. And unless we aquire Jimmy Graham in FA, we have to draft one. And the guy I like is Troy Fumigali from Iowa. May not be the top rated TE in the draft, but he’s very smart and can adapt quickly. And you know Brees can make a smart guy a star!
Posted by Purpleye
Westworld
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:41 am to
In the first round the New Orleans Saints select-Troy Fumagalli-Wisconsin-TE
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162009 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:40 am to
quote:

feel like TE is one of the easiest positions to transition to from college to the pros..


well you'd be wrong.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9460 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:30 am to
Elaborate
Posted by ulsaint
Member since Oct 2007
2460 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:44 am to
For me it's:

1. LB - We need to move Klein to SLB and find a true sideline to sideline MLB to push Teo. Anzalone and Robertson can fight it out for WLB. We just need more speed there.
2. TE - Josh Hill actually came on in the playoffs but he's still a backup imo.
3. DE - This position reminds me a lot of CB last year. Lots of young guys with potential and an injury concern. If you sign Okafor and look for a jump from Hendrickson and Muhammad you may be ok. But if a stud like the DE version of Lattimore falls, you take him.
4. WR - We waited all year for Snead to step up and in the biggest play of the season he did. But I don't know if we can trust that he just had an off year. We need some competition. Coleman is what he is. I'd resign him for cheap but if another team wants him, cya.
5. S - I personally, let Vaccaro walk. Williams, despite the terrible play, is a freaking stud and future All Pro. Not sold on Bell but he's adequate.

Always can use OL depth and finding a better NCB would be nice as well.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10399 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:47 am to
It's hard to talk about draft needs until after FA.

I'd say the team needs in general are:

1. 3rd down weapon - TE or slot WR
2. LB
3. Pass rusher

4. OL Depth / future starters (particularly C and guard)
5. Speed WR (future Ginn replacement)
6. CB3
7. Future QB


I expect them to try and address this stuff during FA so I feel like this will look a lot different ahead of the draft.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:48 am to
What are the strengths of this next draft class? Position wise
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
4200 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:04 am to
#1)Roquan Smith
Posted by Kuzuri
Member since Jan 2018
200 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:06 am to
1. LB
2. DL
3. TE
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162009 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:15 am to
quote:

From a yards and receptions standpoint, here are the three best rookie seasons for a tight end in the last 15 years:

John Carlson - 55 receptions, 627 yards

Tim Wright - 54 receptions, 571 yards

Aaron Hernandez - 44 receptions, 563 yards


quote:

In the Super Bowl era, from 1967 until now, there have been 899 tight ends taken in the NFL draft (via DraftHistory.com). Of those 899, not one has reached the 900-yard receiving plateau as a rookie. Rob Gronkowski wrapped his first pro season with 546 yards; Greg Olsen with 391. Tony Gonzalez, named by NFL.com’s Gil Brandt as the greatest tight end of all time, had 368. The last tight end to hit 900 yards: Mike Ditka, back in 1961, when he posted 1,076 yards—the only time in his career he topped the 1,000-yard mark. Teams aren’t—or, at least until more recently, have not been—drafting tight ends to be instant-impact playmakers on offense, reserving those expectations instead for running backs and wide receivers. The overall lack of production from rookie TEs stands as a glaring bit of history for any NFL newcomer at that position.


quote:

No position is more difficult to transition well from college to the NFL than the tight end position. The intricacies of learning the blocking schemes, pass routes, blitz pickup and hot routes are tough for the first year players to know and understand. The new breed of tight end entering the NFL is the converted wide receivers that have bulked up to play tight end in college. Usually, these players play in collegiate offenses that do not ask them to block on a consistent basis. When they are drafted and finally line up against professional defenders, then asked to block, the newcomers are overpowered


good enough or keep going?
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:16 am to
Trey Burton is an interesting option
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