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re: What is this boards obsession with air raid type offenses?

Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:52 am to
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
15060 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:52 am to
What is your obsession with not scoring points?
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 8:53 am
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
89639 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:58 am to
The problem is... I wholeheartedly believe this is how O thinks
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 8:58 am
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
6218 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:03 am to
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Briles and Gilbert put up great rushing numbers. The power Spread that those two run is nothing like an air raid.


Exactly! But yet some do have an obsession with air raid offenses. This weird unfounded fascination with Leach is exhibit 1 to that effect. Okie St as well.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
89639 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:03 am to
quote:

since so many offensive styles have merged over the years, the generic "spread" term leads to these issues

Quick test for those who are “afraid” of the spread. Go look up the final Top 10 ranking in the past...say 3-4 years and identity a team that runs a traditional, 2 back offense. You’ll see that they are few and far between. This notion this the Spread is a “Gimmick Offense” is absolutely asinine.


My point is people fear what they don’t know so I suggest to the OP to step outta of that 1990s cocoon and do some research of how Offense are run in today’s College Football
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:17 am to
The veer and shoot that Baylor ran/runs uses plenty of old air raid passing concepts but I get your point
Posted by jgoodw318
Bossier City
Member since Sep 2013
1113 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:20 am to
You realize the defenses those offenses played against all year right? Not really SEC caliber...
Posted by jgoodw318
Bossier City
Member since Sep 2013
1113 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:24 am to
I like scoring points. I also realize that these teams get a lot of points scored on them as well. And these teams don’t play against the caliber of defenses you see in the SEC, hell just the SEC West period. Play to your players strengths. If you’re good at running the ball then run it and develop a passing game that you can use when you want to or need to. No need to throw it more than 30-35 times in a single game.
Posted by jgoodw318
Bossier City
Member since Sep 2013
1113 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:26 am to
Find one offense that consistently threw the ball 45+ times a game and won a NC within the last 15 yrs. Are you looking for an offense that wins championships or one that finishes high in stats every year?
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 10:28 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
113133 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:27 am to
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Find one offense that consistently threw the ball 45+ times a game and won a NC within the last 15 yrs.


That's one hell of a fricking straw man you got there

Are you incapable of reading?
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 10:28 am
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:30 am to
And their offenses don't have SEC caliber either...
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
89639 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Not really SEC caliber...

Lol, outside of about 2-3 Teams, the SEC is mediocre. Time to start living out of that bubble
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
89639 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Find one offense that consistently threw the ball 45+ times a game and won a NC within the last 15 yrs. Are you looking for an offense that wins championships or one that finishes high in stats every year?

Have you read this thread? These offense don’t need to throw it 45 times to get the job done. The Air Raid has evolved exponentially since the mid 2000s

And to be honest, you better have a threat of a passing game to win
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 10:37 am
Posted by Cargeaux89
Memphis
Member since Oct 2016
1138 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:46 am to
Briles's Baylor team ran for over 600 yards on North Carolina in a bowl game. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Research the coach or the offense before thinking anything that is spread equals air raid
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18540 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:49 am to
Wide splits create wide rushing lanes. Big 12 defenses suck arse too.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
89639 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:51 am to
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Briles's Baylor team ran for over 600 yards on North Carolina in a bowl game.

With literally no QBs. Seth Russell, Jared Stidham, and their backup were all hurt
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7628 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:59 am to
No one wants an “Air RAID” offense, but literally every team that has beaten Alabama(the game you have to win to win the West) since 2011 has run some version of the Spread coupled with an athlete QB that has to be accounted for.

As others have said, the spread opens up lanes in the running game and the passing concepts are simple.
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:14 am to
The only “Air Raid “ offense was runbyHal Mumme and Mike Leach. It’s gone.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9524 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:09 pm to
I just want an offense that can competently pass the ball. Is that really so much to ask? We have had that exactly ONCE in the last decade because we had a senior QB and two top shelf WRs, meanwhile there are other schools (in the SEC, yes...) who are trotting our true freshmen at QB and throwing it all over the yard. Get real. LSU can still run the ball a lot but this offense needs to be modernized
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
67329 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:21 pm to
Baylor was among top 3-5 rushing in the nation with Briles and his style

And they had great qb play
Posted by choke
Member since Dec 2015
791 posts
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:23 pm to
Scoring points... winning games ....
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