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Any one watched "Burzynski: The Cancer Cure Cover-up"?

Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:52 am
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:52 am
Worth the time to check out... leaves one with a repulsive view of the FDA. Even the Congressional Hearings couldn't back them up.
Posted by guedeaux
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:00 am to
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Worth the time to check out... leaves one with a repulsive view of the FDA. Even the Congressional Hearings couldn't back them up.


Antineoplastons are bullshite.
Posted by mikelbr
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:00 am to
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Any one watched "Burzynski: The Cancer Cure Cover-up"?


We might if you include a link, you fricking OT-cancerous frick.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:04 am to
Work here is Houston and have seen many patients from the Burzynski clinic. In an ER setting though we aren’t getting success stories. My feelings on them are mixed.

Is the FDA and big pharm evil? Yep.

Is Byrzinski full of quackery? Again my feelings are mixed.

I honestly do not know what all they do. I just know what everybody else does. They isolate components of urine and administer it to patients. I’m sure there are other treatments, but IV piss infusions are what grabs your attention.
Posted by danfraz
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:04 am to
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Houston doctor Stanislaw Burzynski, who has been treating the terminally ill with unconventional treatments for 36 years. While supporters see him as a hero, critics say he exploits the vulnerable


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Worth the time to check out... leaves one with a repulsive view of the FDA. Even the Congressional Hearings couldn't back them up.



Really? Have you had any experience what so ever with cancer? Family or personally?

I need to back out of this thread
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:10 am to
What do you think about keeping your own poop when healthy and having it enemas back into your butt during chemo?

Saw this the other day. Seemed odd, but it was about getting bacteria back into your body to raise white blood cell count.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:14 am to
My dad colon. My mom had tumours on her ovaries, my grandma had both breasts removed, my grandfather had skin cancer issues his whole life. On the other side both grandparents had internal problems and Alzheimer's.
So I am always interested in the cures to diseases I have a chance at getting.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:16 am to
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Saw this the other day. Seemed odd, but it was about getting bacteria back into your body to raise white blood cell count.


Would seem poop would have a lot in it that would make a sick person sicker.
Posted by Pas gagne
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:20 am to
Like Ecoli! Why not just take acidophilus or lactobacillus?
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:21 am to
I saw a documentary on Amazon Prime a month or so ago about fasting research done in the former Soviet Union. They didn't focus on Cancer but threw it out there and were acting like a 3 week fast was a cure all for all kinds of diseases from diabetes to hypertension. To be fair I haven't watched it to the end, but it looked interesting and the fact that it was a Soviet study from decades back gives it a lot more credence to me than if this were from some private clinic making money off patients.

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While life expectancy is increasing in Western countries, cases of diabetes, hypertension, obesity and cancer are increasing, and the use of medication has exploded. Does this mean that in order to live to a ripe age we are condemned to swallow more and more drugs? What if there was another way?

For half a century, in Russia, Germany and the U.S., doctors and biologists have been exploring a different therapeutic approach: fasting. The results are amazing.

Soviet researchers have provided a body of clinical studies of exceptional health…only published in Russian, and thus unknown in the West. Young biologists from the University of Los Angeles have overturned conventional wisdom and used molecular biology to demonstrate the powerful effects of fasting.

This research suggests a wide-ranging potential, which could include treatments for the disease of the century, cancer. If these scientists are right, maybe our approach to disease and treatment will need a rethink.

LINK

Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:28 am to
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My dad colon. My mom had tumours on her ovaries, my grandma had both breasts removed, my grandfather had skin cancer issues his whole life. On the other side both grandparents had internal problems and Alzheimer's.
So I am always interested in the cures to diseases I have a chance at getting.


Sorry to hear that but these aren't cures. These are scumbags profiting from other's pain.


Diagnosed with Stage IV Colon Cancer Feb 2016 age 48. Investigated all of these so called "cures" along with so called "typical" treatments.

None worked. Cancer invaded bladder/prostate/rectal area after two initial surgeries to remove the first tumor. After trying anything and everything I could, CDB oils etc etc had to have a pelvic exteneration. No colon, no bladder, no prostate, no rectal area, no a-hole and about 30 lymph nodes gone in August 2017.

My point is, miracles don't really exist. Hated chemo and it's effects etc and I'll never do chemo again when the cancer comes back. Cause it will show up somewhere else. But these quick fix ignore traditional medicines and ways and do it this way are just hoxes that feed on people's pain and anxiety. Until it is YOU in the situation, it's easy to say...Oh this crazy thing may work...then when it's you it's not easy to say or just do that

Maybe drinking your own pee or soaking in your own poop will work for someone someday. But my last 22 months of life on earth have cleared my head somewhat and I see the play on the stage for what it is
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:33 am to
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To be fair I haven't watched it to the end, but it looked interesting and the fact that it was a Soviet study from decades back gives it a lot more credence to me than if this were from some private clinic making money off patients.


Well given that "fasting" in the Soviet Union was often not a voluntary choice, I'm not so sure I'd say that the government backing up starving yourself has credence
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:38 am to
No. Because it's your poop, going back into your anus.
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Posted by IllegalPete
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:07 am to

I'd recommend this book if you haven't already read it.

Amazon Link: Anticancer: A New Way of Life
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 10:09 am
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:10 am to
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Well given that "fasting" in the Soviet Union was often not a voluntary choice


This was medically supervised fasting at a medical facility, not running out of bread at the bread lines.
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4692 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:12 am to
After years of reading about them, got to a be a part of fecal transplant this year. Seems the micro biome is the future of many lines of medicine. As for this burzynski, once people buy into his line, good luck. I’m not saying he’s not on to some good theories, but, he’s nowhere approaching the leading edge of cancer research.

danfranz, Sorry you’ve had to down that path, I spend a good bit of time around cancer, GI, and such, looking at a not so rosy future for myself if I can’t get some things in line.
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 10:15 am
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:18 am to
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What do you think about keeping your own poop when healthy and having it enemas back into your butt during chemo? Saw this the other day. Seemed odd, but it was about getting bacteria back into your body to raise white blood cell count.


Fecal Transplantation is a accepted medical procedure for a number of conditions.


LINK


(Bacteriotherapy)

Fecal transplantation (or bacteriotherapy) is the transfer of stool from a healthy donor into the gastrointestinal tract for the purpose of treating recurrent C. difficile colitis.
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 10:19 am
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:21 am to
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This was medically supervised fasting at a medical facility, not running out of bread at the bread lines.



Ah, they said it was medically supervised? I now totally, thoroughly, completely, surely, absolutely, comprehensively, 100%, now agree that the Soviet leadership would never spin one of their society's greatest problems (lack of food supply) as a solution to one of their other greatest problems (a failing healthcare system).

Yep, I can't see any ulterior motives at all for the Soviet leadership to argue they should stop feeding sick people!
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:32 am to
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danfranz, Sorry you’ve had to down that path



Appreciate that man. Ya know I would have loved for anything to work other than what I had to do. I wish there were miracle cures for all types of diseases.

It's not like I was EVER thrilled with any option I was given from traditional medicine. I wasn't and felt like a cow being led to slaughter 99% of the time.

But I'd already be dead if they hadn't gone in there and taken everything out from the belly button down. Shooting pee or poop back into my body wasn't gonna change that.

People get desperate. I know I was. I wanted to try everything but getting my innards removed. And I tried a bunch of stuff. And none of it worked.
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