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re: Pentagon Admits To Creating Secret Program To Investigate UFOs

Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:33 pm to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:33 pm to
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DawgfaninCa

I posted this on poli board yd
Check out other articles about the unaccounted $$$$

TL:DR - we may have a tax payer funded secret space program...

NY Times

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Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program



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By HELENE COOPER, RALPH BLUMENTHAL and LESLIE KEAN
DECEMBER 16, 2017

WASHINGTON — In the $600 billion annual Defense Department budgets, the $22 million spent on the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was almost impossible to find. Which was how the Pentagon wanted it. For years, the program investigated reports of unidentified flying objects, according to Defense Department officials, interviews with program participants and records obtained by The New York Times. It was run by a military intelligence official, Luis Elizondo, on the fifth floor of the Pentagon’s C Ring, deep within the building’s maze.


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“We’re sort of in the position of what would happen if you gave Leonardo da Vinci a garage-door opener,” said Harold E. Puthoff, an engineer who has conducted research on extrasensory perception for the C.I.A. and later worked as a contractor for the program. “First of all, he’d try to figure out what is this plastic stuff. He wouldn’t know anything about the electromagnetic signals involved or its function.” The program collected video and audio recordings of reported U.F.O. incidents, including footage from a Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet showing an aircraft surrounded by some kind of glowing aura traveling at high speed and rotating as it moves. The Navy pilots can be heard trying to understand what they are seeing. “There’s a whole fleet of them,” one exclaims. Defense officials declined to release the location and date of the incident.


Vid at site/article

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By 2009, Mr. Reid decided that the program had made such extraordinary discoveries that he argued for heightened security to protect it. “Much progress has been made with the identification of several highly sensitive, unconventional aerospace-related findings,” Mr. Reid said in a letter to William Lynn III, a deputy defense secretary at the time, requesting that it be designated a “restricted special access program” limited to a few listed officials. A 2009 Pentagon briefing summary of the program prepared by its director at the time asserted that “what was considered science fiction is now science fact,” and that the United States was incapable of defending itself against some of the technologies discovered. Mr. Reid’s request for the special designation was denied.




In the background of this:

npr

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Pentagon Announces First-Ever Audit Of The Department Of Defense

December 8, 201712:20 PM ET


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"The Defense Department is starting the first agency-wide financial audit in its history," the Pentagon's news service says, announcing that it's undertaking an immense task that has been sought, promised and delayed for years.

Of the tally that is starting this week, chief Pentagon spokesperson Dana W. White said, "It demonstrates our commitment to fiscal responsibility and maximizing the value of every taxpayer dollar that is entrusted to us."

"Beginning in 2018, our audits will occur annually, with reports issued Nov. 15," the Defense Department's comptroller, David L. Norquist, said.




As this relates to this (which I posted about earlier in the thread):



msu article about above

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Earlier this year, a Michigan State University economist, working with graduate students and a former government official, found $21 trillion in unauthorized spending in the departments of Defense and Housing and Urban Development for the years 1998-2015.

The work of Mark Skidmore and his team, which included digging into government websites and repeated queries to U.S. agencies that went unanswered, coincided with the Office of Inspector General, at one point, disabling the links to all key documents showing the unsupported spending. (Luckily, the researchers downloaded and stored the documents.)

Now, the Department of Defense has announced it will conduct the first department-wide, independent financial audit in its history (read the Dec. 7 announcement here).

The Defense Department did not say specifically what led to the audit. But the announcement came four days after Skidmore discussed his team’s findings on USAWatchdog, a news outlet run by former CNN and ABC News correspondent Greg Hunter.


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Skidmore and Fitts agreed to work together to investigate the issue further. Over the summer, two MSU graduate students searched government websites, especially the website of the Office of Inspector General, looking for similar documents dating to 1998. They found documents indicating a total $21 trillion in undocumented adjustments over the 1998-2015 period. (The original government documents and a report describing the issue can be found here.)

This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 11:48 am
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:45 pm to
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That was just a way to pass 22 million on to their friends


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The shadowy program — parts of it remain classified — began in 2007, and initially it was largely funded at the request of Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat who was the Senate majority leader at the time and who has long had an interest in space phenomena. Most of the money went to an aerospace research company run by a billionaire entrepreneur and longtime friend of Mr. Reid’s, Robert Bigelow
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:50 pm to
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$22 million at the Pentagon gets you a basement closet and a filing cabinet.


ABC National news did a story about it tonight and they said although the program officially ended in 2012, pentagon officials said they are still studying UFOs and the latest sighting they have studied is from two months ago.

ABC also showed a portion of a video of a UFO that was "rotating" as well as the comments from the pilot who was watching it.

I think that it was one of the UFOs in the "fleet of UFOs" mentioned earlier on this page.

This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 7:57 pm
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
11270 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:53 pm to
This is Germans bro. FOX already rebooted the X-Files a year ago.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51958 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:58 pm to
Are you really that stupid?

Let me give you a hint about how time works.

If the government repeatedly denied doing something in 1969, 1975, 1990, 2000, whenever, it doesn’t become a lie if AFTER that time, they START a program.

Hence the question, show me when they said it in the time period. Otherwise what YOU said was a lie.

Don’t forget to put on your tin foil cap before searching though.

Google will tell the CIA what you are doing who will then target you with their mind waves.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:00 pm to
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This is Germans bro. FOX already rebooted the X-Files a year ago.


The pilot filming the UFO that was shown on ABC National news tonight didn't act like it is Germans, bro.

Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6501 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:03 pm to
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The pilot filming the UFO that was shown on ABC National news tonight didn't act like it is Germans, bro.


It might not have been the Germans, but it sure as shite wasn't aliens lmao
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6501 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:03 pm to
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The pilot filming the UFO that was shown on ABC National news tonight didn't act like it is Germans, bro.


It might not have been the Germans, but it sure as shite wasn't aliens lmao
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:11 pm to
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Are you really that stupid?

Let me give you a hint about how time works.

If the government repeatedly denied doing something in 1969, 1975, 1990, 2000, whenever, it doesn’t become a lie if AFTER that time, they START a program.


I have been following the UFO phenomena since the mid 50s and ever since the Condom report came out, the government made it clear to the public that they stopped investigating UFOs because they didn't consider them a national security threat.

So when was the government planning on telling the American people that they changed their mind in 2007 and now considered it important to study UFOs?

Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 8:24 pm to
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It might not have been the Germans, but it sure as shite wasn't aliens lmao


How do you know?

Are you the Great Omniescent Dude?
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22348 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 10:53 pm to
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the government made it clear to the public that they stopped investigating UFOs because they didn't consider them a national security threat.


Do you have a link to this? I know that they cancelled project blue book, but they never stated that they "stopped investigating UFO's".
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135218 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 10:54 pm to
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It doesn't not mean alien.

You're not smart
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:04 am to
It’s over 20 billion so far easy and nothing stopped in 2012. It’s all classified black ops off books shite, we are not investigating to see if UFO aliens exist, we have known that since 1940s, we are forging alliances with any ETs we can And trying to get any technological advances we can steal, find, trade for etc.

You would never believe it anyway
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15400 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:09 am to
This is news? If you don’t think the cia has been running this country since dubya two you got issues
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6501 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:22 am to
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It might not have been the Germans, but it sure as shite wasn't aliens lmao


How do you know?

Are you the Great Omniescent Dude?


Don't take no omniscient fella to realize you messin around saying illogical statements... my cousin Enus could tear aparrt your frail thoughts on this'n
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 12:25 am
Posted by Markie812
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2934 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:23 am to
The guy who ran the program now works for Tom Delonge from Blink 182. They are supposedly going to release many more videos pretty soon.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6501 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 12:26 am to
they settin up to make some badd as music television video shows
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22348 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:05 am to
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Don't take no omniscient fella to realize you messin around saying illogical statements... my cousin Enus could tear aparrt your frail thoughts on this'n



You need to post more.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:51 am to
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“We’re sort of in the position of what would happen if you gave Leonardo da Vinci a garage-door opener,” said Harold E. Puthoff, an engineer who has conducted research on extrasensory perception for the C.I.A. and later worked as a contractor for the program. “First of all, he’d try to figure out what is this plastic stuff. He wouldn’t know anything about the electromagnetic signals involved or its function.” The program collected video and audio recordings of reported U.F.O. incidents, including footage from a Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet showing an aircraft surrounded by some kind of glowing aura traveling at high speed and rotating as it moves. The Navy pilots can be heard trying to understand what they are seeing. “There’s a whole fleet of them,” one exclaims. Defense officials declined to release the location and date of the incident.


This was 2004 off the coast of San Diego and the jets were from the Nimitz.

Posted by Tempratt
WRMS Girls Soccer Team Kicks arse
Member since Oct 2013
13602 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:17 am to
It's laughable that they only allocate $22m for this.
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