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re: What's the best argument against an all out AR ban?

Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:46 am to
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:46 am to
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At such close range with 30rd extended mags? Just as many. Good job showing your lack of gun knowledge.


So rates of fire on the weapons are the same? I promise you don't want to challenge me in gun knowledge. I'm sure you get a lot of time at the range lol.


Do you seriously contend that rates of fire for a semi-auto pistol are materially different than that of a semi-auto rifle?
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:47 am to
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seriously can't believe you didn't know a glock and an ar15 have the same rate of fire what a fricking joke.

Seriously, thanks for making my night. You just won dumbest post of the year.



So you can fire 100 rounds out of an AR as fast as 100 rounds out of a glock? Do you happen to live in North LA. Would love to meet you at a range of your choice to test this.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 12:48 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35313 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:48 am to
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You see lots of 30 round pistol mags from your experience on the range lol?

Man your reading comprehension sucks a-hole. Once again, I don't go to a range like you poor folk. I have my own land to shoot on.

And yeah... I've seen 30rd handgun mags. I have 3 for my 5.7.

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I promise you a rate of fire, reload, trigger pull, fatigue from holding a pistol compared to shoulder fired semi-auto. , etc... no you cannot fire, reload or last as long with a pistol compared to an AR variant weapon. You just can't.


Bet? You're so fricking dumb it's funny. Now you're trying to back track not knowing all semi auto firearms have the same rate of fire
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35313 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:49 am to
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So you can fire 100 rounds out of an AR as fast as 100 rounds out of a glock? Do you happen to live in North LA. Would love to meet you at a range of your choice to test this.


I find it weird you keep talking about ranges. But yeah, come on down to Wilkinson County. I'll show you no problem.
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:51 am to
You do not often find 30 round pistol mags. Most trigger pull in a pistol is significantly heavier than that of any AR I've ever fired. Fatigue also sets in much much fast from holding a pistol extended compared to shoulder fire. Match that with precision and muzzle velocity. You people truly are idiots if any of you think you are out firing an AR with a glock. It's actually laughable. But sure you can fire 15 rounds about as fast. Then it's game over and you know it.
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:53 am to
Don't know where that is but would you really be willing to bet you'd out fire 100 rounds in a glock vs .223 or 5.56?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35313 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:54 am to
Oh and just for shits. Here's an OLD arse DUDE shooting 27 rds out of a 1911 handgun in UNDER 4 SECONDS.

Can YOU shoot 27 rds out of an AR in that time? LINK
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:56 am to
I've seen a man also shoot an aspirin with an arrow. Know how I know you're an idiot?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35313 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:58 am to
keep walking back your dumbass statement bub. And I like how now you're changing the situation. Now it's about accuracy

And you do realize at such close quarters, a slower and larger 9mm round does much more internal damage than a high velocity.223 round.. Right?

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You people truly are idiots if any of you think you are out firing an AR with a glock. It's actually laughable. But sure you can fire 15 rounds about as fast. Then it's game over and you know it.


Magazine for magazine, a semi auto is going to shoot as fast as you can pull. I can empty a mag of both and they be interchangeable in terms of speed.

Keep trying to redefine your situation though... We've gone from they don't have the same rate of fire ( ) to well maybe for the first magazine. Then to well the rifle will be more accurate. But the muzzle velocity :lol:
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35313 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:00 am to
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Know how I know you're an idiot?


Strong words coming from a guy who's arguing that two semi auto gun platforms won't have the same rate of fire
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:01 am to
How many time must I say it? Beerjeep is not going to be able to fire 100 rounds out of a glock faster than I would fire 100 round of 5.56 from an AR. It would actually be laughable to watch you try. Do you understand now? And yes I would shoot with way more accuracy as well. And you are likely a tubby douche so you probably wouldn't be able to hold up the pistol after the first mag exchange. So there's that too.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:02 am to
dude, stop feeding the fricking troll, he has no intrest in actual discourse or fact.

A native Woodvilian would have already sorted this.
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:04 am to
That's probably the weakest retort I've ever heard.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35313 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:06 am to
Why are you setting the number at 100? I can fire a full 30 rd mag out of my 5.7 the same speed as I fire a 30 rd mag our of my ar. Or my mp5. Or my uzi. Or my vp9. Or any of my other semi autos.
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And yes I would shoot with way more accuracy as well


Whattttttt no way!!! I had no idea a long rifle would be more accurate than a handgun! Wow. Learn something new every day.

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And you are likely a tubby douche so you probably wouldn't be able to hold up the pistol after the first mag exchange. So there's that too.

Totes mcgoats. Mr "do two semi auto guns have the same rate of fire?"
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:06 am to
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That's probably the weakest retort I've ever heard.



That's rich coming from someone who thinks there's no limit on 1st ammendement lol
Posted by Lee to Toliver
Member since Oct 2011
5840 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:08 am to
with the time it takes to aim, there is no difference
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:09 am to
"assault weapon" is a completely arbitrary term that can mean anything to anyone.
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:11 am to
I like how now we bring in custom weapons and sharp shooters. Gun off the rack, AR vs Glock. You're not firing 10, 15, 30, 60, 100, 200, 500 or any other round except for that 1st one faster than the AR. Sorry but it's not happening. The more rounds we get down line and exchanges, the worse it gets.
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6036 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:13 am to
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"assault weapon" is a completely arbitrary term that can mean anything to anyone.


Did I use the term "assault weapon"? I'm sorry of I did but it's an interchangeable term at this point. I do feel lmthe same way about it however.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35313 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:14 am to
Custom weapons? None of mine are custom. All are stock. And right off the rack, I will shoot them all the same speed. Now, reloading will take different amount of time.for different firearms. But my finger doesn't go into "slow mode" for handguns or "fast mode" for rifles. If simply emptying a magazine is my goal, it is equal amongst all platforms. If I'm trying to get lead down range accurately as quickly as possible, then your premise would be correct. But simply going for speed they are all equal. I find it disappointing you can't figure that out.
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