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re: Tyrese Gibson Breaks Down Over Custody Battle

Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:33 am to
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69263 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:33 am to
Dude just don't like rap. I've seen people say the same about WU-Tang, and you need a college level vocabulary to understand most of their lyrics. Lol

quote:

What makes hair skin epidermis fingernail
Regenerate, when everything else disintegrate
A teflon vest so bullets can't penetrate
On the corner of my block there stood this old man
A black immigrant from the land of Sudan
Who used to tell stories to the children in the building
But never had a dollar to keep his pocket filled in
He bombed he knew Deuteronomy the science of Astronomy
But didn't know the basic principles of economy
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:33 am to
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it's going to the lifestyle of the parent
And the lifestyle of the child.
Posted by Chiefagain
Member since Nov 2016
1808 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:36 am to
I thought you were posting a quote from Tyrese.

Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16930 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:43 am to
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And the lifestyle of the child.



The child doesn't need a $13k a month "lifestyle" when with the mother on account that their father has enough money to live such a lifestyle. Like I said, that portion of money splitting should be determined openly and upfront in the divorce proceedings. To add to "lifestyle" payments under the auspice of child support is nothing more than legalized theft. IMHO.
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 8:44 am
Posted by Tigerdad2001
Watson
Member since Sep 2013
922 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:53 am to
Fun Fact:

Great song and message to Erykah Badu's mom.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111202 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:20 am to
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No person should EVER have to pay anyone $13k a month under the guise of that money being necessary for the other parent to fund the child when in their custody. I don't care how much money the person makes. It's one of the most unfair and asinine laws this country has and it baffles me there isn't a legitimate movement to change the law.

Money splits due to divorce should be determined outright and child support should be a reasonable amount to contribute to typical expenses of raising a child. No one thinks that $13k a month is being spent on the child, it's going to the lifestyle of the parent.
I certainly agree that it's not necessary, and I'd almost 100% agree if it were money going to just an ex-wife with no kids.

But when a kid is involved, I'm not so sure it would also be fair for the millionaire divorced half to continue to live the millionaire life while giving a few hundred bucks a month which is just enough to cover the child's necessary expenses. Even if you argue putting the remainder in a fund for the child or something, that's fine too. But I do think the rich parent should be giving up an amount to keep the child comfortable, not just enough to get by.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47543 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:30 am to
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Sad, Andre 3000 most likely has a higher IQ than you do.


I love that song. CSB.

My kids about a year ago wanted to hear Miss Jackson via Spotify. Completely caught offguard by my 11 and 13 yr old wanting to hear Outkast's Ms Jackson, I was still down for it. So i started it and they quickly go "Dad No! It's by Panic at the Disco."
A 5 minute youtube views comparison and forced listening session, convinced them of the superiority of OutKast's song about co-parenting in the "female-favored custody model". The only lyric I was careful to turn down was "dick all in her mouth". A year later my 14 yr old daughter has it on her playlist.

TLDR. That's a fantastic and timeless song.
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 9:33 am
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47749 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:32 am to
If the money is supposed to support the child, the amount should be based on the cost of raising a child in the area where the child lives.

The income of the father should be irrelevant.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:34 am to
Rap lyrics are the most real, clever lyrics there are, imo

And I think that song sucks
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47543 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:35 am to
quote:

If the money is supposed to support the child, the amount should be based on the cost of raising a child in the area where the child lives.

The income of the father should be irrelevant.


Not so fast. The idea of support is "continuity of lifestyle prior to the split". That's why the support amount is tied to income. It's bullshite sometimes and fair others.

Simply put, men who work for a salary/contract easily connected to his IRS returns get's frickED. while a business owner/self-employed father frickS the system.

I know two guys in BR my age who pay half the support I do yet make twice my salary b/c their business 'loses money' every year.
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 9:36 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69263 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:36 am to
I swear I learn so much on here. Lol


quote:

Andre 3000 explained in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution: "I probably would never come out and tell Erykah's mom, 'I'm sorry for what went down.' But music gives you the chance to say what you want to say. And her mom loved it. She's like, 'Where's my publishing check?'"


"How did my mama feel? Baby, she bought herself a 'Ms. Jackson' license plate," Badu said. "She had the mug, she had the ink pen, she had the headband, everything. That's who loved it."





Thought it was fictional.
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 9:43 am
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47543 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:38 am to
Wanna another nugget of info. The entire Hollywood Cole concept is a MISHEARD Outkast lyric that J Cole thought was a shout out to HIM.

HE then adopted Hollywood Cole despite Outkast telling his manager the real lyric. And Lil Wayne even references it at the beginning of Right Above it.

And our own Cole Freeman was called Hollywood Cole.

He was saying "Who else wanna frick with Hollywood Court"
right here. Now ya know.
Spottie Lyrics
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 9:42 am
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16930 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:42 am to
quote:

But when a kid is involved, I'm not so sure it would also be fair for the millionaire divorced half to continue to live the millionaire life while giving a few hundred bucks a month which is just enough to cover the child's necessary expenses. Even if you argue putting the remainder in a fund for the child or something, that's fine too. But I do think the rich parent should be giving up an amount to keep the child comfortable, not just enough to get by.


Well there's a middle ground between $13k and "a few hundred bucks a month."

Establish brackets instead of percentages. You make over x amount of money, you pay $2-3k per month. Something like that. $3k a month equates to a $36k yearly salary on top of that parents income and the income of whatever their potential new partner makes. That's more than adequate for comfortable living. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69263 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:45 am to
Didn't know that.
Hollywood court is Atlanta's Calliope or Cabrini* green.
Known in rap world


*notorious yet now defunct housing protects.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69263 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:51 am to
What? Gravediggaz had one decent song and that was 12 jewelz. Used to make the Bazooka tubes hit.


LINK
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 9:52 am
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8628 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Sad, Andre 3000 most likely has a higher IQ than you do.



I would say the odds are more than likely...
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67023 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:54 am to
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Just seems like those would frick a father up a lot more than arguing over money (which 13k is still absurd)




Agreed.

I'll murder my wife and hide her body before I get divorced. No shot I got through a legal system that tells me when I can see my kid.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36586 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:54 am to
quote:

I would rather be poor than to have people following me and snapping pictures at everything I do.


Not me. I'd just move out of LA to a smaller more remote town in the hills
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38627 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:59 am to
quote:

The idea of support is "continuity of lifestyle prior to the split".


This is also bullshite. How can you predict that the lifestyle will remain the same for whatever duration the support payments are set for? What if the economy tanks, the supporter loses their job etc. According to the current laws you still have to continue paying the amount which was the "lifestyle" at the time the divorce was finalized.
Posted by Central Tiger
Louisiana
Member since May 2006
2660 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:00 am to
And here’s an additional kick to the gut. The father has to pay taxes on the money he gives her every month. Meanwhile, she gets $156K tax free annual income. Yeah, that’s fair. #maleprivilege
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