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Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:40 pm to Toddy
quote:you agree to throw out all the queers, and I'll agree to throw out all the muslims
I fricking hate Muslims
deal?
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:41 pm to Topcat
Mahmoud Abdul Rauf is a cool guy.
But I agree with Gad.
But I agree with Gad.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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People need to remember: Islam would not be a religion without violence. The only reason it spread and dominated the Arabian peninsula is because Muhammad was a ruthless warchief who forced tribes and villages he conquered to convert or die.
Without the violence and imperialism of the Roman Empire, Christianity wouldn't have spread either
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Mate I ate at Knights Steakhouse in Ann Arbor tonight
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:36 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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ETA: Personally, I wish the whole world were Buddhist. Never hear about Buddhists starting shite, do you?
Just half of WW2 including atrocities that would have shamed the Nazis
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:45 pm to Strannix
Only 1/3 of Japan are Buddists.
60% follow NO religion.
60% follow NO religion.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:56 pm to matthew25
Interestingly Tojo’s grandfather was a Buddhist priest
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:58 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
quote:if you pay attention you do. if you look a little, you'll see they are committing horrific crimes just like everyone else
Never hear about Buddhists starting shite, do you?
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:59 pm to Toddy
quote:wow next thing we know you’ll be on the Trump Train with that attitude
Meh- I don't think there are any good Muslims. Shittiest religion BY FAR.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:00 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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I've known and worked for several great people who claimed Islam as their faith.
Me too, and I don't think they would actively do violence, but don't be fooled.
If muslims become the majority those 'nice' muslims would not lift a finger to save you from the radical ones who want you dead.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:01 pm to CommoDawg
quote:totally untrue. christianity was spreading like wildfire despite persecution. what changed is the persecution. once constantine acknowledged it, christians could breathe a sigh of relief.
Without the violence and imperialism of the Roman Empire, Christianity wouldn't have spread either
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:01 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Lebanon is the canary in the coal mine. They were kind to and open to Islam for decades. Now, they're subjugated by Islam.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:04 pm to Toddy
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Meh- I don't think there are any good Muslims. Shittiest religion BY FAR.
Not good enough for a coat but could I interest you in a lovely half cape?
And Mustafa Kemal was a great Muslim.
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:09 pm to CptBengal
Yep, the answer is to kill them. It's like have a bacterial infection. Antibiotics kill some good bacteria but hopefully it kills all bad bacteria. You have to make these people extinct to win this war. Black flag is the answer!
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:09 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
gad hit the nail on the head. countries have been trying to address the effect, not the cause. the cause is islamic theology. ignorant americans don't know that there are debates between imams about the use of violence. they have been going on for centuries. if one side can't trump the other, how in the world is a western infidel supposed to know which is theologically more correct?
it just shows that islamic theology is convoluted enough to justify a peaceful approach AND a violent approach. that's why neither group of muslims can supersede the other.
it also shows that the war on terrorism will NEVER end. it's not a winnable war. every human would have to forget that jihad/fatwa existed so that no other person could ever take up that stance and use violence to employ it.
it just shows that islamic theology is convoluted enough to justify a peaceful approach AND a violent approach. that's why neither group of muslims can supersede the other.
it also shows that the war on terrorism will NEVER end. it's not a winnable war. every human would have to forget that jihad/fatwa existed so that no other person could ever take up that stance and use violence to employ it.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:14 pm to shinerfan
quote:Ataturk? Allegedly liked little boys
Mustafa Kemal was a great Muslim
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:16 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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The greatest muslims are ones that are not in America
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:20 pm to Kafka
He pretty much shut down Sharia and even bamned Muslim dress codes for 90 years. He dragged Turkey into the 20th century until Erdogam decided to return the Turks to the Bronze Age. Islam desperately needs more Ataturks. Whatever his flaws they pale beside Erdogan.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:precisely. someone knows their history.
Islam would not be a religion without violence. The only reason it spread and dominated the Arabian peninsula is because Muhammad was a ruthless warchief who forced tribes and villages he conquered to convert or die.
mohammed's sect was failing and he was losing support. so, he turned to raiding in order to maintain a living. boom, islamic violence is justified. it goes all the way back to the beginning. turns out he was a really good general otherwise they would have been wiped out by the meccans
quote:yep. americans aren't aware of this but the vast number of muslims are either not muslim by choice or are nominal muslims who commit shirk all the time (such as nazars according to the wahhabis). so when someone touts the number of muslims on the planet, take that number with a grain of salt.
It's not an "organic" religion like Christianity or Buddhism or Hinduism
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