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re: Les on Off the Bench: Describes his teams' culture
Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:47 am to Huck Finn
Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:47 am to Huck Finn
Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative.
Yet in his last few years, a lot of what he said there was “don’t do as I do, do as I say do.”
Yet in his last few years, a lot of what he said there was “don’t do as I do, do as I say do.”
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Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:52 am to timlan2057
I agreed that Les needed to go, but I still say that he handled about 90% of his job well.
He recruited great talent, hired good coaches usually, kept the team playing with a pretty consistent attitude, stood up for his guys, and was a good ambassador for the university.
If he could have just gone totally hands off with the offense and allowed the philosophy to evolve...
He recruited great talent, hired good coaches usually, kept the team playing with a pretty consistent attitude, stood up for his guys, and was a good ambassador for the university.
If he could have just gone totally hands off with the offense and allowed the philosophy to evolve...
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:01 am to timlan2057
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Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative.
in our wildest dreams none of us thought O would be the only alternative. i will admit i gave alleva waaaaaaayyy too much credit. i actually thought he had a functioning brain. shame on me.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:04 am to timlan2057
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Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative.
This. Quite the paltry alternative for only a mere 1M less per year.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:05 am to timlan2057
quote:Oh my God. Did you not follow the hiring process at all?
Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:22 am to timlan2057
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Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative.
Les would still be the coach at LSU if he wasn't so damn stubborn. It's sad and disheartening that if he would have just adapted to this era of football he could still be the coach. He genuinely had a passion for LSU (not initially, but it grew on him).
But I COMPLETELY agree. If Ogeron was going to be the ultimate hire, then LSU should have just kept Les. And that's not said with the benefit of hindsight. Everyone (or at least people with a brain) knew what LSU was getting with Ogeron. Alleva thought he was smarter than everyone in the room and he was going to orchestrate a coup to get Jimbo Fisher and be the "savior" of LSU football. Instead, he got exposed as a complete fool two consecutive years.
If you are going to make a big move such as firing the most successful coach in school history (which was arguably warranted if LSU wanted to be a NC contender again), then you go "all in". If Fisher was your guy, then you meet every demand to make SURE he is your head coach. Same with Herman.
Stupid arse Joe leveraged himself out of any bargaining power with both Fisher and Herman then tried to negotiate with them as if he had any real leverage. Simply put, you either make them offers they can't refuse or stand down and keep your HC. But alas, Joe refused to get into "bidding wars" for two successful HC's just so he could get into a bidding war WITH HIMSELF for a coach no one wanted.
The level of business incompetence is staggering.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 1:23 pm to timlan2057
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Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 1:35 pm to timlan2057
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Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative
I agree. I miss Les and I wanted to fire him since 2004.
who would have thought they'd hire fricking Oregeron, though?
Posted on 10/6/17 at 2:59 pm to timlan2057
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Les should have never been fired if Orgeron was the only alternative.
Yet in his last few years, a lot of what he said there was “don’t do as I do, do as I say do.”
If Ogeron was THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE, I have to agree with you on that.
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