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re: Sean Payton Gun Control Tweet

Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:22 am to
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:22 am to
2/3 gun deaths are suicide. If someone wants to kill themselves, they will find a way. If someone wants to kill a bunch of people, they will find a way, like a big box truck. There is no way to legislate someone's heart or mind. The only people that suffer are law abiding citizens. Criminals already break laws, what's one more law to break? And sorry but the right to keep and bear ARMS shall not be infringed. If the founders had wanted to state muskets, they would have. They didn't.

See link on gun stats.
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Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6678 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:26 am to
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2/3 gun deaths are suicide. If someone wants to kill themselves, they will find a way. If someone wants to kill a bunch of people, they will find a way, like a big box truck. There is no way to legislate someone's heart or mind. The only people that suffer are law abiding citizens. Criminals already break laws, what's one more law to break? And sorry but the right to keep and bear ARMS shall not be infringed. If the founders had wanted to state muskets, they would have. They didn't.



How do you suffer by having to go through a more rigorous gun screening process or not having the ability to own high powered weapons designed for mass killing (not hunting, protection, etc.)?
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 12:20 pm to
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2/3 gun deaths are suicide. If someone wants to kill themselves, they will find a way.
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I have to point out how false and dangerous this narrative is.

I'm a psychologist, and one of the first things you do when you hear a client is suicidal is ask if they have any guns.

Acute suicidality is temporary and opportunistic.
That's why hospitalizing suicidal people for a few days is so useful.
They're over the need to kill themselves by then.

I'll give an example.
Tons of people jump off the golden gate Bridge every year.
One year, while filming a movie, they prevented people from jumping.
They decided to check up on them later on.
They found that, after seven years, over 90% of the people who attempted suicide were still alive.




It's actually not that easy to kill yourself.
I've seen people fail in all sorts of ways.
But it IS easy to kill yourself with a gun.
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