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It is beginning to look like some NFL Owners put Trump up to this attack
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:45 pm
Trump claims some NFL owners told him they were essentially afraid of the players and felt they "needed to do something" but for some reason couldn't. This would make sense given that Trump's first statement was, "wouldn't you like to see an 'owner'...."
IMO, it is looking like the owners knew the fans wouldn't support this and they talked Trump into stoking the fire so that the players hear directly from the fans that the fans will not support disrespecting symbols of universal freedom and tolerance. I think the owners tried to get the message through to the players last year but the players' egos felt they owned the fans and not the other way around.
If this is what is going down, well done you few owners.
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President Trump continued the war against NFL players not standing for the national anthem Thursday, declaring that NFL team owners need to stop pandering to their players and being afraid of them.
Trump claimed that NFL owners have previously told him in private that they’re in “a situation where they have to do something.”
Trump told “Fox and Friends” host Pete Hegseth “I think they’re afraid of their players, if you want to know the truth, and I think it’s disgraceful.”
“They’ve got to be tough, and they’ve got to be smart.” the President continued, adding that “most people” are with him on the issue and the NFL is “in a box”.
Describing the players refusing to stand for the anthem, Trump said it is a a “terrible thing.”
“The NFL cannot disrespect our country. They cannot disrespect our flag or our national anthem, and they can’t have people sitting down or kneeling down during our national anthem,” he said.
“When it comes to the respect of our nation, when it comes to the respect of our anthem and our flag — they have no choice. You have to have people stand with respect,” Trump concluded.
IMO, it is looking like the owners knew the fans wouldn't support this and they talked Trump into stoking the fire so that the players hear directly from the fans that the fans will not support disrespecting symbols of universal freedom and tolerance. I think the owners tried to get the message through to the players last year but the players' egos felt they owned the fans and not the other way around.
If this is what is going down, well done you few owners.
LINK /
President Trump continued the war against NFL players not standing for the national anthem Thursday, declaring that NFL team owners need to stop pandering to their players and being afraid of them.
Trump claimed that NFL owners have previously told him in private that they’re in “a situation where they have to do something.”
Trump told “Fox and Friends” host Pete Hegseth “I think they’re afraid of their players, if you want to know the truth, and I think it’s disgraceful.”
“They’ve got to be tough, and they’ve got to be smart.” the President continued, adding that “most people” are with him on the issue and the NFL is “in a box”.
Describing the players refusing to stand for the anthem, Trump said it is a a “terrible thing.”
“The NFL cannot disrespect our country. They cannot disrespect our flag or our national anthem, and they can’t have people sitting down or kneeling down during our national anthem,” he said.
“When it comes to the respect of our nation, when it comes to the respect of our anthem and our flag — they have no choice. You have to have people stand with respect,” Trump concluded.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:47 pm to notsince98
so in response they double down and put themselves further in a position?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:47 pm to notsince98
These billionaires are more afraid of the players than their own customers? Well if they are that stupid then they deserve to lose their business.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:48 pm to notsince98
oh cool. if true, he was just protecting the interests of 32 wealthy men. truly, a man of the people.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:48 pm to notsince98
If true, then these owners are a bunch of spineless pussies.
I don't understand why they don't tell the players that everyone that doesn't stand will get a $50k fine that will go to a police charity.
I don't understand why they don't tell the players that everyone that doesn't stand will get a $50k fine that will go to a police charity.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:50 pm to Seldom Seen
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These billionaires are more afraid of the players than their own customers? Well if they are that stupid then they deserve to lose their business.
I don't think it is quite that simple. Teams with the best players are more profitable. In order to make the most money you gotta have good fans which requires having good players too.
This whole charade (if that is what it is), gave the owners the opportunity to publicly side with players to keep them happy while giving the fans the chance to show the players it is not a good idea.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:56 pm to notsince98
I don't think that's true. Why would the owners go to Trump on this issue instead of going to Roger Goodell, who actually works for the owners? If enough owners wanted the league to put a stop to the protests, Goodell would be forced to act. All Goodell would have to do was have the league office send a memo to all teams that anthem protests were negatively affecting the NFL's perception in the eyes of fans/sponsors and the league was banning on-field protests and would fine or suspend players who continued to protest.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:58 pm to Tiger Prawn
of course it isn't true
why would the owners ask Trump to makes things worse for them?
why would the owners ask Trump to makes things worse for them?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:59 pm to notsince98
1) Owners "hire" Trump to put an end to this kneeling bullshite.
2) Trump formulates a plan of action and gets to work
3) End result: Players AND owners are kneeling.
2) Trump formulates a plan of action and gets to work
3) End result: Players AND owners are kneeling.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:00 pm to notsince98
quote:Trump does not have a great track record when it comes to describing the details of a private conversations.
Trump claims some NFL owners told him they were essentially afraid of the players and felt they couldn't do anything about protests.
But anyways, there were only about 5 players from 4 teams who had protested during the first few weeks. Those teams were: Seattle, San Francisco, Kansas City, and Oakland. So those would be the only owners who should have any current concern, and 3 of those teams are in 2 of the most left leaning areas of the country.
So the "several owners told me they are afraid" comment doesn't seem very plausible.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:01 pm to notsince98
and who put the players up to kneeling for the anthem? Maxine Waters?
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:02 pm to notsince98
Yeah I'm not really buying this.
They had to know there would be this reaction where they would double down as an "F U" to Trump.
If that's the case, these people really have no clue the mentality they are dealing with.
They had to know there would be this reaction where they would double down as an "F U" to Trump.
If that's the case, these people really have no clue the mentality they are dealing with.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:02 pm to notsince98
TIN FOIL HAT ALERT: Trump is helping his billionaire friends purposefully drive down ratings, so in the short term, they lose money. This causes the owners?teams to be forced to signing cheaper contracts and ultimately renegotiating the NFLPA agreement. Then, football returns to normal, profits skyrocket with the players getting a smaller share.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:02 pm to Tiger Prawn
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I don't think that's true. Why would the owners go to Trump on this issue instead of going to Roger Goodell, who actually works for the owners? If enough owners wanted the league to put a stop to the protests, Goodell would be forced to act. All Goodell would have to do was have the league office send a memo to all teams that anthem protests were negatively affecting the NFL's perception in the eyes of fans/sponsors and the league was banning on-field protests and would fine or suspend players who continued to protest.
We know some owners went to Trump. So the question is, why? What did they hope to gain? Well, what did Trump do about it? Trump went and told the fans to make their voices heard. So what logical explanation is there for all this?
The NFL has been veering left for a while. There is no way the NFL as a whole would be able to come to a consensus on this. If owners started firing players over it, the NFLPA would be bringing lawsuits. I am betting that some owners realized realized that the only people with the power to get the message across was the fans since that is where the money comes from. Owners know the golden rule better than most. They probably felt it was the only way to save the league long term, by dealing with it all now and moving on instead of letting this drag out for years slowly building.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:02 pm to Walking the Earth
Yep. And CIA created AIDS, crack, etc.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:02 pm to notsince98
I don't buy it but using Trump as a proxy would make sense.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:03 pm to CoachChappy
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TIN FOIL HAT ALERT: Trump is helping his billionaire friends purposefully drive down ratings, so in the short term, they lose money. This causes the owners?teams to be forced to signing cheaper contracts and ultimately renegotiating the NFLPA agreement. Then, football returns to normal, profits skyrocket with the players getting a smaller share.
I like it. Something is going on here and that is as good of a guess as any.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:03 pm to notsince98
Get this Infowars bullshite outta here
Outta here!
Outta here!
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:05 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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Yeah I'm not really buying this.
They had to know there would be this reaction where they would double down as an "F U" to Trump.
If that's the case, these people really have no clue the mentality they are dealing with.
Of course they knew there would be blowback. This way everyone is pissed at Trump instead of the owners for firing players over protests. Trump has clearly shown he is fine with taking fire on topics to stand up for common sense.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 1:06 pm to JuiceTerry
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Get this Infowars bullshite outta here
It is a video interview with Trump by Fox News. Those are Trumps quotes from the video.
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