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re: Why do liberals/leftists hate the flag and national anthem?
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:42 am to AU86
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:42 am to AU86
I am a liberal, or at least left of center on enough issues to self identify as one when forced to label myself. What I am not is a leftist no different than the majority of conservatives are part of the alt-right. Lumping leftists and liberals in the same bag is simply incorrect, it is a venn diagram sort of issue, the same as saying every conservative has a Nazi flag tattoo hidden on his butt.
I was a liberal when I took my oath and accepted my commission in the USA. I served out of a love and commitment for the ideals of the US. At least one man or woman in both my parent's families has been on active duty since the beginning of the nation, and before. The families have and have had many liberals and conservatives but at least all the ones I know loved the US.
I have visited over 30 countries and lived in 3 for over a year (not counting military service since that isn't actually "living" in a foreign country). There are things I liked about each country but ultimately I still loved the US more.
I think the majority of the alt-right and the majority of the leftist actually love the country though they both have very different ideas of what the country should be. Our country is not static and if it weren't for people that saw the ideals of the country needed to shift we would still have slavery and women without the vote.
I think true love for a country requires a constant vigilance to make it better. I think this is similar to a child, you may love a child above all other but you may also see their flaws and realize it is your responsibility to help them be better. The US is not perfect nor has it ever been nor will it ever be but those that love it have a responsibility to attempt to make it better.
I believe in peoples rights to peacefully protest and I believe in the potential for the free speech to meet legal consequences.
I further think that labeling anyone that you don't agree with a nasty pejorative is intellectually weak. While the internet is allowing the electorate to become more engaged and educated than ever it has also brought on a high level of tribalism and people living in self chosen echo chambers. People who can not have a civil discussion with those that have different points of view and simply stamp their feet in disgust while spraying insults like so much diarrhea are part of the problem not part of the solution.
I was a liberal when I took my oath and accepted my commission in the USA. I served out of a love and commitment for the ideals of the US. At least one man or woman in both my parent's families has been on active duty since the beginning of the nation, and before. The families have and have had many liberals and conservatives but at least all the ones I know loved the US.
I have visited over 30 countries and lived in 3 for over a year (not counting military service since that isn't actually "living" in a foreign country). There are things I liked about each country but ultimately I still loved the US more.
I think the majority of the alt-right and the majority of the leftist actually love the country though they both have very different ideas of what the country should be. Our country is not static and if it weren't for people that saw the ideals of the country needed to shift we would still have slavery and women without the vote.
I think true love for a country requires a constant vigilance to make it better. I think this is similar to a child, you may love a child above all other but you may also see their flaws and realize it is your responsibility to help them be better. The US is not perfect nor has it ever been nor will it ever be but those that love it have a responsibility to attempt to make it better.
I believe in peoples rights to peacefully protest and I believe in the potential for the free speech to meet legal consequences.
I further think that labeling anyone that you don't agree with a nasty pejorative is intellectually weak. While the internet is allowing the electorate to become more engaged and educated than ever it has also brought on a high level of tribalism and people living in self chosen echo chambers. People who can not have a civil discussion with those that have different points of view and simply stamp their feet in disgust while spraying insults like so much diarrhea are part of the problem not part of the solution.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:44 pm to AU86
A person who does not respect themselves can not respect anything else. You are witnessing people who respect nothing.
They say everyone HAS to "respect" their "right" to protest, but they do not respect other people's right to be angered by their GROSS ACTS OF DISRESPECT.
No one is angered at the fact that they want to protest. People are angered by their blatant disrespect for the flag of the UNITED States of America.
Their disrespect is highly DIVISIVE.
They say everyone HAS to "respect" their "right" to protest, but they do not respect other people's right to be angered by their GROSS ACTS OF DISRESPECT.
No one is angered at the fact that they want to protest. People are angered by their blatant disrespect for the flag of the UNITED States of America.
Their disrespect is highly DIVISIVE.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:52 pm to AU86
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Why do liberals/leftists hate the flag and national anthem?
Why do conservatives/rightists hate minorities?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:52 pm to Obtuse1
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I further think that labeling anyone that you don't agree with a nasty pejorative is intellectually weak.
Welcome to the poli board!
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:01 pm to Obtuse1
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Now leave this place. Your kind is not welcome.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:03 pm to AU86
They're allowed to kneel for the anthem, burn the flag, spit on veterans, attack people with bats, shoot cops, because like racism or something I think.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:52 pm to AU86
They look at a pole and think, "gee, I'd like to ride that, but that damn 3 colored thing is always in the way"
I really have no answer for the song other than maybe it fricks up the vibe while doing meth and shrooms.
I really have no answer for the song other than maybe it fricks up the vibe while doing meth and shrooms.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:53 pm to MintBerry Crunch
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Because they blame society for their shitty lives rather than themselves
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:57 pm to AU86
Bc they don't know what they want nor do they possess individual, independent thought, collectivism and intolerance are the oxygen to socialism's fire
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:25 am to AU86
They hate Trump and they hate having no power and now the flag represents Trump and them having no power.
End of story.
End of story.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:36 am to AU86
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What kind of upbringing did these people receive?
Dr. Spock's enabling
A great piece on how one man had a tremendous influence on how indulgence was instilled at an early age
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What does it say about their parents?
Parent
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 1:00 am
Posted on 9/27/17 at 1:27 am to LSUconvert
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Why do conservatives/rightists hate minorities?
Race Card played.
Really man?!?!
I saw people of all colors kneeling Sunday and I saw people of all colors standing Sunday.
You have no idea what is going on so you claim racism.
So typical.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:03 pm to AU86
The far left liberal hates God and they are atheists. Nothing is "sacred" to them except chaos.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:29 am to Obtuse1
Great post. Unfortunately, this same thread will pop up again tomorrow, the next day, then the next day, etc.
Sucks, but true
Sucks, but true
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:37 am to AU86
When did kneeling before the flag become more disrespectful than actually taking up arms against the flag?
Confederate apologists are so confused.
Confederate apologists are so confused.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:43 am to AU86
Liberals are a conundrum. They hate government. Protests, riots, destruction, shite like that.
But then they want the government to take care of them by giving them free money and I won't even mention all the social shite they expect from the government. Crazy frickers for sure.
But then they want the government to take care of them by giving them free money and I won't even mention all the social shite they expect from the government. Crazy frickers for sure.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:43 am to AU86
The answer is simple. Liberals read the Constitution and think frick that shite. Their primary goal for at least 100 years has been to get around it.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:56 am to AU86
Because leftists are disgusting sub-human trash. I want them all fired from their jobs, stripped of their wealth and made to beg in the streets like a dog for bread. Wait, they don't have jobs and they're all on welfare. Nevermind.
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