I obviously agree that the chances of us going 11-1 are about the same as me and you both winning the Powerball. And I'm with you man, CEO has a lot to prove to us as fans.

But O's failure at Ole miss 10 years ago doesn't have dick to do with this team or this program. As long as we don't have a 4-8 like season, O will get 3 years to prove himself just like every coach ever hired gets. After the 3 years, the cards will lie where they have fallen and either O has us going in the right direction or he'll be stuck in neutral and we'll be on to the next guy. Either way, O should be given the opportunity to show us what he can do.

I also advise against hot takes based on this season. Judging a coach on year one is often fools gold. Like many have stated some great coaches faltered in their first year (Saban, Dabo, etc.). But others have looked like true contenders in year one only to be put back in their place in the following years (Malzahn, Chizik, muschamp in year 2at UF).

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Posted by UpToPar

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Member since Sep 2008

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Posted on 9/22/17 at 1:20 pm to Bert Macklin FBI

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But O's failure at Ole miss 10 years ago doesn't have dick to do with this team or this program.

It’s not the end all be all, but it’s his only other HC experience we have to go on. Until proven otherwise, he is a failure as a HC.

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As long as we don't have a 4-8 like season, O will get 3 years to prove himself just like every coach ever hired gets. After the 3 years, the cards will lie where they have fallen and either O has us going in the right direction or he'll be stuck in neutral and we'll be on to the next guy. Either way, O should be given the opportunity to show us what he can do.

I don’t agree. I don’t think there’s anyway he is fired after this year barring some serious scandal, but I don’t know that he’s guaranteed 3 years. I think two 7-5 seasons and both him and Alleva are gone. In my mind, he had his chance to win the job and he failed.

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Posted by Freauxzen

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Member since Feb 2006

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Posted on 9/22/17 at 1:28 pm to Bert Macklin FBI

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But O's failure at Ole miss 10 years ago doesn't have dick to do with this team or this program.

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I also advise against hot takes based on this season. Judging a coach on year one is often fools gold. Like many have stated some great coaches faltered in their first year (Saban, Dabo, etc.). But others have looked like true contenders in year one only to be put back in their place in the following years (Malzahn, Chizik, muschamp in year 2at UF).

You say don't judge a coach on one year, but set it up by saying people can't judge past years where O was head coach. So, in theory, you literally are building up defense against any opposition to O for the next 24-36 months. Double that with the "rebuild" narrative and it seems O is absolved of both his tenure at Ole Miss, and any failings over the next 3 years.

This is where the vitriol and constant debate is coming from I would guess. If this is the common thought of the "Don't Panic" crowd.

Side note: I wonder all of the "Ole Miss doesn't matter" crowd....do you never turn in a resume on your job applications? Are you never judged for your past performance. That doesn't make sense to me. If I was chasing a promotion, my RESULTS would be #1 on my resume.

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