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re: Question to libs about prexisting conditions and high risk

Posted on 9/21/17 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 1:34 pm to
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There's a reason countries with single-payer have to tax the hell out of citizens and then they still need to be buy supplemental coverage on private markets.


The taxes those citizens of other countries pay, even if you lump in the cost of any supplemental insurance they choose to buy, are far less than what Americans pay in health insurance.

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You should be on your own


It's really a question of whether you want a civilized society or an every-man-for-himself anarchy like prehistoric humans had and wild animals still have. One price of civilization is pooling resources for the common good.

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Unleash the private market and allow it to fully underwrite risks and create innovative solutions to problems.


Letting people die because they don't have enough money to pay for necessary care is not innovative in the least. In fact, it's the oldest solution on the planet. At some point, we decided we could do better, so we did. Now, some want to go back.

I don't know what in the hell it is that makes people so romanticize prehistoric times, from the paleo diet to extreme libertarian laissez-faire economics, it's all the same damned thing, a return to primitive times before advanced civilization. What idiot thinks those days were better?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141313 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 1:36 pm to
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The taxes those citizens of other countries pay, even if you lump in the cost of any supplemental insurance they choose to buy, are far less than what Americans pay in health insurance.


Link?

I do appreciate you being another honest socialist. We are better able to resist each other if we are honest.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43443 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 1:39 pm to
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advanced civilization.


Your problem is that you view the definition of the above as an all-powerful government that directs every aspect of our lives for the "greater good"....and greater good being whatever you decide it is.


ETA: Just saw you're in DC

This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 1:56 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425100 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 1:47 pm to
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It's really a question of whether you want a civilized society or an every-man-for-himself anarchy like prehistoric humans had and wild animals still have. One price of civilization is pooling resources for the common good.



oh
my
good
lord

that's the level of discourse on this subject that i expect out of middle school children
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57457 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:06 pm to
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Letting people die
why do people make the presumption that freedom from government = "letting people die". It's pathetic.

If you knew someone that needed help.. would you help them or simply let them die? Would the only way you'd help them is if the government forced you by threat to help them?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57457 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:07 pm to
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One price of civilization is pooling resources for the common good.
No!
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