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re: Hooray for justice! MAGA! Go Joe go!
Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:15 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:15 pm to buckeye_vol
Separates out those that have principles they stick to, and those that are at best just in it for the cult of personality, and at worse, those that are receptive to authoritarian rule.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:42 am to Jcorye1
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I don't get why the conservatives love this guy
because he enforces the laws.
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Joe plays extremely fast and loose with the 4th Amendment.
that is a political opinion - not supported by facts
nothing Joe has done re the 4th amendment compares with the prog/DEM/MSM shredding of the 1st and 2nd amendments
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 7:45 am
Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:01 am to SCLibertarian
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He doesn't get to choose which court orders he follows
Yea, who does he think he is, part of the obama administration?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:12 pm to Raylan70
Why do you keep asking people about the Patriot Act?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:19 pm to buckeye_vol
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buckeye_vol
Melting over for news....
It's like Vegas Bengal is back in all her tranny glory
Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:32 pm to CptBengal
This thread sure is a display of who places team before country or values.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 5:48 pm to buckeye_vol
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Well then. Law enforcement has almost 3 times more probable cause to pull you over than a female. What do you think about that?
I think your analogy is shitty.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 5:52 pm to Jcorye1
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I don't get why the conservatives love this guy. Joe plays extremely fast and loose with the 4th Amendment.
Exactly. I am happy he lost, but his "trial" was a sham.
He was definitely in office for too long and got borderline corrupt imo. Definitely overplayed his power.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:16 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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Pardoning him before he was even sentenced is a joke and shows that Trump has no understanding of or respect for the law of this country.
Melt cuck
Airhead response.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:18 am to SoulGlo
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He was definitely in office for too long and got borderline corrupt imo. Definitely overplayed his power.
borderline?
As of June 2014, costs to Maricopa County taxpayers related to Arpaio's and Thomas's failed corruption investigations exceeded $45 million, not including staff time.[103][104]
In February 2010, Pima County Superior Court Judge John S. Leonardo found that Arpaio "misused the power of his office to target members of the Board of Supervisors for criminal investigation".[105]
In 2008, a federal grand jury began an inquiry of Arpaio for abuse of power in connection with an FBI investigation.[106][107] On August 31, 2012, the Arizona U.S. Attorney's office announced that it was "closing its investigation into allegations of criminal conduct" by Arpaio, without filing charges.[108]
Arpaio was investigated for politically motivated and "bogus" prosecutions, which a former U.S. Attorney called "utterly unacceptable".[106][107] Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon called Arpaio's "long list" of questionable prosecutions "a reign of terror".[107]
The targets of Arpaio's alleged abuse of power included:
Phil Gordon, Phoenix Mayor[106]
Dan Saban, Arpaio's 2004 and 2008 opponent for the office of Sheriff of Maricopa County[106]
Terry Goddard, Arizona Attorney General[106]
David Smith, Maricopa County Manager[106]
The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors[106]
Barbara Mundell, Maricopa Superior Court Presiding Judge[106]
Anna Baca, former Maricopa Superior Court Presiding Judge[109]
Gary Donahoe, Maricopa Superior Court Criminal Presiding Judge[106]
Daniel Pochoda, ACLU attorney[106]
Sandra Dowling, former Maricopa County School Superintendent[107]
Mike Lacey, Editor, Phoenix New Times[107]
As of July 2010, only Sandra Dowling had been successfully prosecuted.[107] Indicted on 25 felony counts, Dowling eventually pleaded guilty to patronage for giving a summer job to her daughter, a single class-2 misdemeanor which was not among the original counts, although as part of the plea bargain she also agreed to recuse herself from the Maricopa County Regional School District. Dowling later filed suit, alleging negligence, malicious prosecution, abuse of process and several constitutional violations, although Arpiao won summary judgment against her claims.[110]
Mike Lacey and Jim Larkin, the founders and leaders of the Phoenix New Times, were arrested after publishing a news article on a grand jury investigation involving Arpaio's office. On the evening that the article was published, Lacey and Larkin were arrested by plainclothes sheriff's deputies, "handcuffed, put in dark SUVs with tinted windows and driven to jail."[111] Following a public uproar over the arrests, all charges were dropped against Lacey and Larkin.[111] Lacey and Larkin filed a federal Section 1983 lawsuit for the violations of their civil rights, and in 2012 the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled that they could sue the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office for the arrests.[112] In 2013, the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors voted to settle the suit for $3.75 million. Lacey and Larkin used the proceeds of the settlement to establish an endowed chair professorship at the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication.[111]
An analysis by the Maricopa County Office of Management and Budget, completed in April 2011, found that Arpaio had misspent almost $100 million over the previous 5 years.[117][118][119]
The analysis showed that money from a restricted detention fund which could legally be used only to pay for jail items, such as food, detention officers' salaries, and equipment, was used to pay employees to patrol Maricopa County.[117] The analysis also showed that many sheriff's office employees, whose salaries were paid from the restricted detention fund, were working job assignments different from those recorded in their personnel records. Arpaio's office kept a separate set of personnel books detailing actual work assignments, different from information kept in the county's official human resources records.[118]
Arpaio used the detention fund to pay for investigations of political rivals, as well as activities involving his human-smuggling unit.[117][118]
The analysis also showed a number of inappropriate spending items including a trip to Alaska where deputies stayed at a fishing resort, and trips to Disneyland.[118][120]
Separate investigations by The Arizona Republic uncovered widespread abuse of public funds and county policies by Arpaio's office, including high-ranking employees routinely charging expensive meals and stays at luxury hotels on their county credit cards.[121]
The Republic also found that a restricted jail-enhancement fund was improperly used to pay for out-of-state training, a staff party at a local amusement park, and a $456,000 bus which Arpaio purchased in violation of county procurement rules.[117][122]
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 12:22 am
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:26 am to Turbeauxdog
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I think your analogy is shitty.
i think it comes down to a basic concept of freedom..
do you think the government should be stopping all people who appear to be muslim at checkpoints and detaining those without proper identification? what about detaining all people who fit the profile of a white nationalist?
i'm sure they'll catch some bad guys. but how much freedom are you willing to permanently lose for the tiny increase in security?
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 12:27 am
Posted on 8/27/17 at 6:31 am to bmy
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i think it comes down to a basic concept of freedom..
do you think the government should be stopping all people who appear to be muslim at checkpoints and detaining those without proper identification? what about detaining all people who fit the profile of a white nationalist?
i'm sure they'll catch some bad guys. but how much freedom are you willing to permanently lose for the tiny increase in security?
Look another shitty analogy.
The people weren't stopped because they were Hispanic, they were stopped because they broke the law and if there was reasonable suspicion that they may be illegally in the country, they were detained.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 6:35 am to Turbeauxdog
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The people weren't stopped because they were Hispanic, they were stopped because they broke the law and if there was reasonable suspicion that they may be illegally in the country, they were detained.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:35 am to Turbeauxdog
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The people weren't stopped because they were Hispanic, they were stopped because they broke the law and if there was reasonable suspicion that they may be illegally in the country, they were detained.
Oh, really? Lots of examples to choose from
Julio Mora, an American citizen, and his legal resident father were cuffed and held for three hours during the MCSO's immigration raid
"That's just normal police work, " Arpaio said following the raid. "Sometimes you do have probable cause, you do take people in for questioning, and they're released."
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 10:36 am
Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:55 am to Old Sarge
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:18 pm to Bullethead88
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Bulletthead88
See this you are back after melting on the Help Board. Btw, ShortyRob was never banned.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:20 pm to Old Sarge
Hooray for fake assassination attempts, framed victims, jailed political opponents and a complete disregard for constitutional rights!
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:22 pm to Turbeauxdog
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The people weren't stopped because they were Hispanic, they were stopped because they broke the law and if there was reasonable suspicion that they may be illegally in the country, they were detained.
Patently false. You're either lying or just made that up feeling like that would be the most right way to have done it and hoping that's how Arpaio did it. He didn't.
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