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re: A light topic for the day...Do you believe in evolution?
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:50 am to ell_13
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:50 am to ell_13
You truly are ignorant in this area. It's baffling to me that you can't simply google what we're saying and see that what we're saying has literally been understood for hundreds of years.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 9:51 am
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:51 am to Eli Goldfinger
I cannot believe that it's 2017 and people still deny scientific facts. Yes, evolution definitely happened/is still happening. You can't comb through pea gravel at a park for 5 minutes without finding fossils that are millions of years old.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:53 am to LCA131
quote:This isn't an argument because when people thought this, "science" as we know it didn't exist. So you can't really call them "scientists" at all.
At ONE TIME, the GREATEST thinkers and scientists in the world were convinced that the Sun revolved around the Earth.
quote:In the same way that God was factual to them and not open to discussion.
It was factual to them and not open to discussion
quote:No. They started looking for facts.
The facts changed
quote:Learned.
They evolved
quote:It's quite easy.
hat's what we're trying to say it is tough to accept something as 100% factual,EVER.
quote:It's not about stubbornness and I'm certainly not the ignorant one here. Just because some people took a philosophy class once or are clinging to what their 5th grade teacher told them about learning and discovery, doesn't mean that facts don't exist in this world.
your stubbornness and unwillingness to see the simple fact is starting to make your ignorance easy to accept 100%.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:56 am to theunknownknight
quote:Wow. You've got one guy saying "this is known for 100s of years" and another guy saying "what people knew 100s of years ago is wrong". Interesting.
You truly are ignorant in this area. It's baffling to me that you can't simply google what we're saying and see that what we're saying has literally been understood for hundreds of years.
I have a background in this stuff. My only point that as true as 2+2 = 4 is so is the coefficient of friction.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:57 am to ell_13
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Wow. You've got one guy saying "this is known for 100s of years" and another guy saying "what people knew 100s of years ago is wrong". Interesting.
This has to be a troll.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:01 am to theunknownknight
I just thought it was funny that two guys trying to argue the same thing took completely opposite stances on the reliability of the "thinkers" from 100s of years ago. That's all. Not really trying to make a point about it. 
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 10:01 am
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:03 am to ell_13
I was stating a known axiom from scientific thinkers known for centuries.
He was citing actual occurences where that axiom held true.
He was citing actual occurences where that axiom held true.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:08 am to theunknownknight
quote:I'm aware.
I was stating a known axiom from scientific thinkers known for centuries
quote:He was citing a time when the scientific method hadn't existed yet at least not even close to how it exists today.
He was citing actual occurences where that axiom held true.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:10 am to ell_13
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That has zero to do with "there being no facts in science". I can give you a fact that we've discovered through science and that doesn't make it questionable or "maybe wrong one day" just because you learned the scientific method in 5th grade.
I can't make it any more plain than: H20 is water. Or the acceleration due to earth's gravity in a vacuum at 0 atm is -9.8 m/s.
Those are facts. Now, with anything in physics, you can change the variables or parameters to determine that things aren't so simple, but when you set those out clearly, the conclusion is often known. In other words: A fact
You do know you're wrong right? Like not up for discussion, no debate, you are just empiracally wrong.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:10 am to Eli Goldfinger
Christian evolutionist here. 
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:11 am to ell_13
quote:
was citing a time when the scientific method hadn't existed yet at least not even close to how it exists today.
And of course you noticed that I never used the term scientific method in my post. I was just addressing the fact that you accept today's fact in today's world. Just as they did hundreds of years ago. Their facts changed and all I'm saying is that yours may change too. Some something that is as yet undiscovered could change everything. Which is why we were addressing "100% true".
You are trolling.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 10:12 am
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:11 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:empirically*
You do know you're wrong right? Like not up for discussion, no debate, you are just empiracally wrong.
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:12 am to LCA131
quote:Do you accept it as fact that the earth rotates on an axis and orbits the sun? Yes or No?
I was just addressing the fact that you accept today's fact in today's world.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 10:13 am
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:16 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
I suppose I believe in evolution with divine guidance.
Do you also believe organisms self-assemble from nothing by divine guidance, or is that a natural process?
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:24 am to SG_Geaux
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Evidence isn't necessarily the same thing as proof.
quote:
Well I guess we need to shut down all of our prisons.
Reasonable doubt.
I don't believe in evolution, but I also don't keep up with the current theories on it
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:29 am to ell_13
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Do you accept it as fact that the earth rotates on an axis and orbits the sun?
I'm not telling you that.
quote:
Yes or No?
You Don't Own Me, you can't tell me what words to use!
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:30 am to Spock's Eyebrow
I really want one of these posters to tell me that it's not a fact that the earth is round, that it rotates on an axis, or orbits the sun. Where have they all gone?
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:31 am to LCA131
quote:
You Don't Own Me, you can't tell me what words to use!
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:32 am to ell_13
If the sun's a big ball of fire, how come it's so cold in space?
Roundearthers
Roundearthers
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 10:33 am
Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:34 am to ell_13
The earth is round-ish.. the axis is kind of made up.. it doesn't physically exist, and for now, we orbit the Sun... but hundreds of years ago, 'your people', thought otherwise.
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