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re: BYU Defensive Breakdown
Posted on 8/15/17 at 8:52 pm to Bosethus68
Posted on 8/15/17 at 8:52 pm to Bosethus68
BYU's LB group is one of the more sound tackling groups you'll see. This ain't no LSU vs TAMU game. You're not going to see that. Guice will get his for sure, but he's not going TAMU/Ark on us.
And I agree with others that last year doesn't mean a ton. We also don't face the type of passing offenses that we did last year. Some people point to WV and Toledo like it's something bad, but to be fair, those teams torched basically everyone. Howard and Woodside combined for like 7500 yds. They're known for high powered offenses and had some of the least sacked QBs in the nation.
I'll respect handfuls of things about LSU, but worrying that they'll be like one of those two teams isn't one of them. I'm not worried about Etling going all Woodside on us. I'm hoping BYU is the game that can contribute to cutting down the time until Brennan takes over so you guys can have a passing game. ;)
Guice is elite but how many defenses did he play last year that were close to BYU? Not saying BYU will be as good as LSU, but talking BYU in relation to those defenses. He wasn't destroying better defenses. I expect him to improve but it will be interesting to see how it goes. Obviously it seems Canada's "pro-spread" is a good way to make up for things if the OL isn't up to par (I have to admit I thought it was funny seeing a comment that this year's OL is just as good as last year's). :)
And I agree with others that last year doesn't mean a ton. We also don't face the type of passing offenses that we did last year. Some people point to WV and Toledo like it's something bad, but to be fair, those teams torched basically everyone. Howard and Woodside combined for like 7500 yds. They're known for high powered offenses and had some of the least sacked QBs in the nation.
I'll respect handfuls of things about LSU, but worrying that they'll be like one of those two teams isn't one of them. I'm not worried about Etling going all Woodside on us. I'm hoping BYU is the game that can contribute to cutting down the time until Brennan takes over so you guys can have a passing game. ;)
Guice is elite but how many defenses did he play last year that were close to BYU? Not saying BYU will be as good as LSU, but talking BYU in relation to those defenses. He wasn't destroying better defenses. I expect him to improve but it will be interesting to see how it goes. Obviously it seems Canada's "pro-spread" is a good way to make up for things if the OL isn't up to par (I have to admit I thought it was funny seeing a comment that this year's OL is just as good as last year's). :)
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:02 pm to Yfan
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(I have to admit I thought it was funny seeing a comment that this year's OL is just as good as last year's). :)
I have no idea why the BYU fans keep harping on this. LSU oline has depth issues. That's great for opponents in the back half of the schedule. LSU returns 3/5 starters, both tackles, and the interior guys taking over capable. So yes, I expect LSU's oline to perform similarly to the 2016 unit in the BYU game.
ETA bayoubengal and I are on the same page lol
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:06 pm to Yfan
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Guice is elite but how many defenses did he play last year that were close to BYU?
You mean close to being ranked 71st on total defense? A lot of them.
And FYI Toledo has 2 games with over 400 yards of passing. 2. You guys gave up over 500.
It was a standard game for those teams - they torched you like they torched no other.
Utah gave you six turnovers and you still blew it. You haven't beat a top 25 team outside Provo in 8 years.
Not sure where you guys get your chip on the shoulders about being a better defense or better anything.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:16 pm to Yfan
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I thought it was funny seeing a comment that this year's OL is just as good as last year's). :)
Why is that so funny? You apparently don't know much about our OL. We return our C, RT, LT, and replace RG/LG. Both of whom have gotten previous snaps. The LG replacing last years is much more athletic, and technically sound then the previous. We have many options at RG, most of whom were highly ranked guards. I would venture to say that we will be as good in the starting 5, possibly better. Depth won't be as good, but the starting 5 isn't a worry. Depth in this first game, really isn't an issue either.
Etling might not throw for 400 or 500 yards but he could easily throw for 300, while our backs go for 150 to 200. Depending on how effective we are in this system, I could even see 250 to 300 yards on the ground. This offense won't be something BYU is accustomed to, nor have they seen an offense like this, ever.
This offense isn't about spreading the WRs out and finding holes while we pass block. It's about sending people in opposite directions, all with speed, and it taking more then 1 or 2 guys to get them to the ground. If BYU needs to send 3 guys to an area to tackle one player, that gives LSU a huge advantage in another area. That's how this offense operates. You will absolutely have to commit people to the strong side of the action.
Say if Guice has been getting 4 or 5 yards a carry for 4 straight carries, your defense will automatically try to stop the bleeding. That's when we send another athlete to the opposite area with the ball, that player can take it a long ways before BYU D even knows where the ball is located, BOOM, TD. Or LSU fakes it to both areas in the backfield, your safeties or LBs have to react to it and BOOM, man open.
Etling doesn't need to throw the ball 60 yards or even 20 yards accurately. He simply needs to run the offense effectively, and the offense will get him his yards. What's Etling strength? He's smart with the football. We'll see I guess. GT
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