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re: Bill O'brien on Deshaun Watson

Posted on 8/1/17 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 2:34 pm to
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Only been in the NFL since 07 so he's seen Matt Guiterez, Kevin Occonnell, Brian Hoyer, Zac Robinson, Ryan Mallet, and Tom Savage


So one guy who's even a fringe NFL starter. Wow, this clearly proves Watson will be better than Trubisky.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 2:36 pm to
High praise indeed
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 2:39 pm to
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Matt Guiterez, Kevin Occonnell, Brian Hoyer, Zac Robinson, Ryan Mallet, and Tom Savage



So the #12 overall pick looks better in camp than a couple of 3rd rounders, a 4th rounder, a 7th rounder, and two undrafted QBs?


Well, I would hope so
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 2:42 pm to
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Trubisky was always the project. Deshaun was always the most ready.

Draft success will not be defined in the first preseason game on schedule of their perspective careers.


How many times do projects actually end up succeeding?

A one year QB wonder with great measurables shoots up the draft charts. How many times have we seen that scenario play out?
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 2:45 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 2:44 pm to
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How many times do projects actually end up succeeding?



probably same rate as the non projects end up succeeding.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 2:46 pm to
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How many times do projects actually end up succeeding?

How often does any QB, regardless of where he was drafted, end up succeeding?

Every QB is a project. Some just need more work than others.
Posted by Winston Cup
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 2:46 pm to
never forget:

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 2:51 pm to
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Every QB is a project. Some just need more work than others.


Well I assumed with the word project we were speaking relative to average QB development. Don't see how you can take a project with the #2 overall pick.

Obviously nothing's decided, but these days if you pick a guy that high and he's not starting by year 2, you picked the wrong guy.
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 2:55 pm
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
22039 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 2:53 pm to
Chicago picking Trubisky is going to be on the all time worst picks list
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 2:55 pm to
Gonna need you to define "succeeding" and let me know how to tell which QBs are projects and which ones aren't before I can accurately answer your question.
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 2:55 pm to
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Trubisky is raw, needs a lot of work.

Which is why drafting him in the top three was suspect AF.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36468 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 2:59 pm to
If I'm Deshaun Watson I thank God every day I went to Houston as opposed to the Bears. Better weather, not too far from his home in GA and a much better chance to succeed than in Chicago.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112502 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 3:00 pm to
Biggest problem with drafting him that high is that they gave up high capital to move up one draft spot and no one else was trying to move up there
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 3:07 pm to
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And he is so calm and cool that it is scary. No matter his mistakes or turnovers, he'll just come right back like it didn't happen. He seems kind of emotionless.


When you play for an utter moron like David, you have to be emotionless
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 3:08 pm to
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Gonna need you to define "succeeding" and let me know how to tell which QBs are projects and which ones aren't before I can accurately answer your question.


It was more of a rhetorical question. Just saying that we've seen the one year wonders flame out spectacularly before. I'd want a QB with a body of work.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:30 pm to
Drafting Trubisky is not the problem, what they gave up to draft him is the problem
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:21 am to
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quote:

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O'Brien: "Deshaun is ahead of any rookie quarterback I've ever been around."
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Meanwhile up in Chicago Trubisky is having trouble with completing a qb/rb exchange


Remember Johnny Football? Teams reviewed the LSU TAMU films and he became worthless.

Expect DW to run into the same issues after teams look at the BWW Bowl film.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30198 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:33 am to
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Meanwhile up in Chicago Trubisky is having trouble with completing a qb/rb exchange



didn't trubisky not know what a hard count was either...?
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5456 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:36 am to
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Trubisky was always the project.


Name one QB who was labeled a project coming out of the draft that ever turned out to be really good? I can't think of a single one.

ETA: Just saw this question was already brought up.
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 9:38 am
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5456 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:40 am to
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If I'm Deshaun Watson I thank God every day I went to Houston as opposed to the Bears. Better weather, not too far from his home in GA


The drive to Houston is longer
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