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Obamacare Failure
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:22 am
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:22 am
Other than not being able to come through on the promise to repeal and replace, why don't we just let it play out? I am not really versed on what happens if it fails. Can't we just quit wasting time and move on? This is a serious question. I don't hold it against Trump. But D.C. Idiot's can't agree on anything these days.
It seems they spend more time trying to get DJT out than letting him work.
It seems they spend more time trying to get DJT out than letting him work.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:28 am to Simplemaaan
The only way it fails is Republican sabotage.
Otherwise, it's performing quite well.
Otherwise, it's performing quite well.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:29 am to Simplemaaan
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I am not really versed on what happens if it fails
For one, States will have to bail out the exchanges and the gubment will have to subsidize more to keep the markets alive.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
Bail out exchanges?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:32 am to Simplemaaan
The democRats are spiking the ball and hi-fiving each other because the Republicans can't stop them from arse-raping Mr. and Mrs. America.
Think about that, they are THRILLED that their destructive plans continue to harm citizens that they represent.
Think about that, they are THRILLED that their destructive plans continue to harm citizens that they represent.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:33 am to BamaAtl
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The only way it fails is Republican sabotage.
Otherwise, it's performing quite well.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:34 am to BamaAtl
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The only way it fails is Republican sabotage.
yeah, that's it.
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Otherwise, it's performing quite well.
I want some of what you're smoking.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:34 am to BamaAtl
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The only way it fails is Republican sabotage.
Otherwise, it's performing quite well.
Are you a fricking retard?
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BamaAtl
Oh wait, yes you are.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:36 am to BamaAtl
Really please enlighten me as to why I, a 25 year old, had a 200% increase in my premiums since the start of Obamacare. It's not doing good, if it was then more insurance companies would be adding to the ACA not leaving it.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:36 am to BamaAtl
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The only way it fails is Republican sabotage.
Republicans have done nothing at all to Obamacare except refuse to pay off the insurance companies to cover their losses. I always hear Dems talking about ending corporate welfare. Why is that not the case here? Why is this one piece of ACA so critical to its success?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:40 am to BamaAtl
Tell that to people like me who have refused to pay the high premiums and high deductibles.
This year would have cost me and the wife $20,000 in premiums with a $13,000 family deductible. In our 60's and would be paying for a ton of insurance we would never use.
Yeah, it's working REAL GD well.
This year would have cost me and the wife $20,000 in premiums with a $13,000 family deductible. In our 60's and would be paying for a ton of insurance we would never use.
Yeah, it's working REAL GD well.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:41 am to BamaAtl
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Otherwise, it's performing quite well.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:44 am to HailToTheChiz
Why has it made premiums so high? Are the paying people carrying the entitled again?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:49 am to Simplemaaan
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Bail out exchanges?
Yep. Gonna cost Alaska 40-50 million this year to keep the lone provider
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
How does it effect the amount of providers?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:58 am to BamaAtl
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The only way it fails is Republican sabotage
If by sabotage you mean the Reps stop bailing out the insurance companies then I agree.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:01 am to BamaAtl
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The only way it fails is Republican sabotage.
It was built to fail regardless.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 10:34 am
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:06 am to BamaAtl
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The only way it fails is Republican sabotage.
Otherwise, it's performing quite well.
The Affordable Care Act was nothing more than a huge transference of wealth. It is amazing that a benefit which was previously provided by employers on a voluntary basis has now been placed under governmental control, forcing certain employers to provide the benefits or be fined, while telling them how the benefits are to be paid, how much they must pay, what is covered and deciding which of their employees lifestyles are to be subsidized by other employees.
In addition we were also being forced to subsidize health insurers through reimbursement corridors and subsidies when they were required to discard actuarial prognostications to assume any all risks with the knowledge that if their profits dropped accordingly the taxpayers would make up the difference. Now the courts have finally reigned in this assault on our constitution by this administration by ruling these subsidies can only be paid when authorized by Congress. Congress has refused to allocate the funding and the carriers have elected to abandon this sinking vessel.
Yes, the " uninsured rate " may have dropped . Much of this is due to the mandate to purchase ( the first time in the history of this country the populace is forced to purchase a product just for existing) and those who would have been eligible for Medicaid even without the Affordable Care Act. Yet, the new insureds really are no better off as they must absorb large deductibles and co-payments to access their coverage. This is prohibitive for many. When the Democrats were passing the ACA we were told, depending on the audience that there were 30,000,000 to 50,000,000 uninsured people in the country who would benefit from passing the ACA. Lets split it and call it 40 million uninsured. If those numbers were true then there should have been a stampede to sign up for coverage last year and this year.
The Health and Human Services claims the number of signups last year is 9.4 million Remember, though we were not told the truth about 2015 signups. It was eventually exposed and finally admitted by the administration that they had lied and the number of signups was actually 6.3 million and not the 8.7 million they touted until they were exposed. There was no confirmation of how many of the current 9.1 million were previously insured and lost their coverage due to the ACA. In reality there may have been only 5 million newly insured. The total insured may have been well below 8 million by the end of last year.
My premiums have increased 64% since 2013 with higher deductibles and co-payments while I am also forced to subsidize the insurance of others. The president claimed premiums would be reduced $2,500 per family by the Affordable Care Act. The president knew this was not true and deliberately lied to the American people to push for the passage of the act.
The Democrats can be proud of themselves. They gave Obama his signature accomplishment and now the Democrats own it. It has already cost them the Congress and it was a significant factor in costing them the Presidency.
It would have been better for Congress to have allocated an assigned risk pool of funds to assist those who were shut out of the standard insurance markets by pre-existing conditions instead of this giant exercise in absurdity and lunacy. The Democrats had to resort to unconstitutional deception and bribery of reluctant Congresspersons from Nebraska, Louisiana and Michigan to get the law passed. We were lied to again and again and again by this administration.
Jonathan Gruber, one of the plan's major architects confirmed the level of deceit by the Democrats. Hard working tax paying citizens are being forced to subsidize health care for others, meanwhile many have lost their own coverage and are being forced to purchase insurance with higher premiums and higher deductibles and co-payments. Despite Obama's claim it would reduce premiums an average of $2,500.00 per family this year's true numbers of participants will continue to drop, primarily due to the cost. A recent report stated more and more Obamacare recipients cancelled their policies even after being afforded great leniency by the very liberal rules set by this administration.
So we had to totally disrupt health coverage that many were happy with, had to endure a total revision of the healthcare system all for less than 3% of the population of this country. This continues to prove how incompetent the Obama administration was and so ill prepared to govern.
This is yet another example of how liberals operate. They will take what they can get at first. Then having gotten their foot in the door they return to press for the rest at a later date in the guise of fairness. Then anyone who objects is waging a war on those beneficiaries, a meme which their media minions is always willing to trumpet. Look no further than this current push for single payer option and the recent movement in California to cover illegal immigrants.
The Democrat Congress and President Obama passed a defective bill and will continue to pay the price for it. The Democrat Congress had to assure Obama got his signature accomplishment. You Democrats now own it lock, stock and barrel.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:09 am to Simplemaaan
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How does it effect the amount of providers?
We're down to one on the exchange. The rest have dropped out.
So, there's no competition and the rates are through the roof.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:18 am to RogerTheShrubber
So by repealing, we should have more options on healthcare?
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