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Posted on 7/20/17 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 6:35 pm to
The Brits don't seem too impressed...Two stars.

And this is their movie Saving Private Ryan made just for them.

Criminally under-represented in the annals of movie history, the wartime evacuation of Dunkirk has been crying out for a classic film interpretation to rank alongside genre leaders The Longest Day, A Bridge Too Far and Saving Private Ryan.

Christopher Nolan’s Dunkirk, alas, just isn’t it. What it is, essentially, is 106 clamorous minutes of big-screen bombast that’s so concerned with its own spectacle and scale (shot on huge IMAX and 65mm cameras, for big frames and big action) that it neglects to deliver the most crucial element — drama...characters...drama, drama, drama.

- Times London


So the Brits are saying Nolan took a pivotal moment in their history and reduced those families and soldiers to comic-book characters...or worse...comic-book characters get a backstory...Nolan has taken this event and reduced it to a video-game. That's pissing on the memories of those who died and history just to appease teenagers and fanboys and shirk his duty as a film-maker.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 6:42 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35240 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:13 pm to
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So the Brits are saying Nolan took a pivotal moment in their history and reduced those families and soldiers to comic-book characters...or worse...comic-book characters get a backstory...Nolan has taken this event and reduced it to a video-game. That's pissing on the memories of those who died and history just to appease teenagers and fanboys and shirk his duty as a film-maker.
I like how you take one review, and use that to argue that this represents the Brits as a whole. Why don't we take the site that aggregates all of the reviews and see what the collection of Brits thinks?

Indie London--5/5
Sky Movies--5/5
Times--2/5
Scotsman--5/5
Financial Times--4/5
Independent--5/5
BBC--5/5
iNews--5/5
The Shiznit--4/5
Radio Times--5/5
Independent (second reviewer)--4/5
Screen International (metacritic score)--100/100
Daily Mirror--5/5
Time Out--4/5
Daily Telegraph--5/5
Daily Express--5/5
HeyUGuys--5/5
Guardian--5/5
Cinevue--5/5

I may have missed a publication, but there were also two reviews that did not have a score from rottentomates.
GQ UK--fresh rating--called it the decades Band of Brothers so that's about as good of a comparison as possible
The Spectator--rotten rating--called it brave but emotionally hollow, so pretty mixed.

So there are 21 reviews, 19 of which are positive (90.5%), and you picked 1 of the 2 rotten reviews, specifically the worst one, and decided that that represented the views of the “Brits.” Of the 19 with an actual rating, 14 are perfect scores, and if converted the 19 to a 100 point scale. The average “Brit” score would be 92.6.

What a terrible post on your part.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 7:54 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70932 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:09 pm to
Did you even see the movie?

To say it lacked drama is hysterically inaccurate.

As buckeye said, you referenced ONE review
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29336 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:53 pm to
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.Nolan has taken this event and reduced it to a video-game. That's pissing on the memories of those who died and history just to appease teenagers and fanboys and shirk his duty as a film-maker.


No way you have seen the movie.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:20 pm to
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What it is, essentially, is 106 clamorous minutes of big-screen bombast that’s so concerned with its own spectacle and scale


Honestly, I loved the hell out of the movie, but did walk away with a similar feeling. It felt as if the thought process was, "The Dunkirk Evacuation! That will be the topic of my next masterpiece." as opposed to "The Dunkirk Evacuation! That's a story that needs to be told."

I felt like the film was about Nolan first and Dunkirk second. This is coming from someone who was absolutely mesmerized by it and rated it 9/10. To be 10/10, it had to make the story bigger than any of its creators like SPR did. Dunkirk didn't quite get there for me.
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