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re: DAT 7/15 Twins (Santana) @ Astros (Musgrove) 6:10

Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:39 pm to
Posted by texastiger38
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:39 pm to
Like I posted earlier. Everyone wants Whitley apparently.

I'm not sure the path they have him on. But if he continues to dominate, he could be on a LMJ path as early as next year.

ETA: Ed wade is the GOAT
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:39 pm to
I just hate the man since he was on arguably the most hatable CFB team of all time.

He isn't right in the head either. During the sugar bowl, on one of the first drives he catches a out for a first down. After the play he tossed the ball at laron Landry. Laron targeted him the rest of the game, blowing coverage just whip his arse. That was an awesome arse whipping to attend
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:43 pm to
If DK makes another AA start next weekend (Saturday) He'll be in Midland, I'll get to go watch
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

Joe Ross To Have Tommy John Surgery mlbtraderumors.com/2017/07/joe-ro…


Nats starter done. Pitchers on contenders dropping like flies.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25241 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:46 pm to
So this is COMPLETELY HYPTHOTHETICAL but, if Madbum was available would you give up Tucker and Whitley? (Of course several others in the top 10 would be involved, Martes, fisher, etc)

ETA: and/or Bregman included in the potential trade
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 4:49 pm
Posted by Big Floppy TDs
Where the beer flows like wine
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:48 pm to
You looking at Fisher, tucker, Whitley, Perez prolly, that's too much to give up. Not a part of the "10 year plan"
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:51 pm to
2013-2015 Bumgarner, yes.

2017 Bumgarner, I don't think so.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145264 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:51 pm to
Getting bumgarner would cost so much your team would be worse after
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:54 pm to
Buddy just texted me this

"My cousin is sitting next to Guduan on a flight from Seattle that got grounded in Dallas to wait out the storm through Houston. He said Reymin is stressed because he said he has to be at the game tonight.

Guess we're expecting Musgrove to need some help tonight. Haha"

Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:55 pm to
Whitley is the rare breed who is a big hoss built to be a starter who came out of high school able to throw 5 pitches. He will be a full time MLB starter by age 21 if he's healthy. Unlike Lance, health should be far less of an issue long term.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:55 pm to
I know the cost would be astronomical, just sparking some conversation.

That being said, if the goal is to win a WS, it's interesting to think about (IMO) giving up those kinds of assets, for a pitcher of that caliber.

ETA: not that I think he'll even be available
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 4:56 pm
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
9546 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:55 pm to
The philosophy of this team is to avoid moves like that. Not something we would or should pursue.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:56 pm to
I think getting bumgarner would also require legit major league talent
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25241 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:58 pm to
Agree, that's why I ETA Bregman.

If the Fangraphs trade rankings are any kind of indication (Madbum is 36 bregman is 38) it would cost him and several prospects.

I'd also like to add, I'm not in any way advocating for this, just gauging others' opinions
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 4:59 pm to
Like if you were to ask me what it would take for Kershaw, I'd say it would start at correa or maybe Springer and then we'd go from there

Bumgarner isn't necessarily on that level but hes in the neighborhood. Probably would need Bregman and more
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145264 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 5:00 pm to
Just need to see him pitch after he messed his shoulder up
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25241 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 5:05 pm to
Kershaw is an interesting deal, and even though he's a better pitcher than Madbum (IMO) he'd be essentially a rental since there's a clause in his contract that he can opt out after any season that he's traded.

Would be really cool to see the value of that vs the value of a Madbum who has 2 years of team control after this year, and cheap team control at that.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 5:06 pm to
Oh absolutely, I was just talking about in a vacuum

Kershaw would not get as much as bumgarner IMO strictly because of that clause
Posted by davy jones
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 5:06 pm to
At the right price, Samardzija is an interesting option. 3.09 xFIP & 3.26 SIERA. HR/FB is way up but I would expect that to come down. FB% below career average and soft contact % above career average. Striking out better than a batter an inning while waking just over 1 per 9.

18 mil a year isn't great, but not an insane number. Biggest issue is age. He'll be 35 in 2020.

The age is enough to scare me off, but it's not the craziest of ideas.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

what it would take for Kershaw,


Jesus.

There isn't a package of players big enough. I almost wish the Dodgers were awful just to see somebody try to make a run at him. He'd be the ultimate addition to a contender. But for the Dodgers to put the best pitcher in baseball (and one of the best ever) on another team, they'd have to get multiple proven major leaguers as well as a haul of top prospects.
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