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re: The looming repeal of Obamacare

Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124671 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 10:52 pm to
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if there's a large enough population of these non-paying customers you'll really start
You may not realize this, but one of the hazards of obamacare and its massive deductibles is the essential conversion of everyone on the exchanges to self-pay.

After that there is also the issue of lower provider reimbursements associated with obamacare policies.

In other words, for physicians it doesn't matter a whole bunch.
Just FYI.
Posted by Jeff Boomhauer
Arlen, TX
Member since Jun 2016
3552 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:01 pm to
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They can't stop a repeal with the repubs in control of congress,


Exactly. So why hasn't it been repealed (as promised) yet?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49009 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:04 pm to
I'm fine with single payer as long as they don't outlaw paying cash for uncovered or waitlisted procedures if you want.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62730 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:05 pm to
Because once you give someone free shite, you never see it taken back. I think the Rebubs like all those taxes and blaming the Dems for the even shitier Obamacare. Once they design a plan, they know it's their arse. The best plan is a clean repeal, end of story! Anything less, and it's pretty much going to be a disaster for them...
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23809 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:10 pm to
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After that there is also the issue of lower provider reimbursements associated with obamacare policies.

trust me, i'm well aware of this...
this along the increase in drug prices really puts a squeeze on shite from time to time...

quote:

for physicians it doesn't matter a whole bunch.

think so?

just curious, but what line of work do you do?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124671 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:19 pm to
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just curious, but what line of work do you do?

I'm a physician
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23809 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:41 pm to
do you own your own practice, by chance?
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23809 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:44 pm to
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for physicians it doesn't matter a whole bunch.

i'm gonna assume you mean on the "paycheck" side of things, for yourself, that it doesn't matter a whole bunch...
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:49 pm to
I am fine with single payer as long as the rich can thumb their noses at the death panels and buy heart lung replacements for their 87th birthday.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 11:50 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124671 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:58 pm to
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do you own your own practice, by chance?
Before I sold it
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
36780 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 12:08 am to
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I'm fine with single payer as long as they don't outlaw paying cash for uncovered or waitlisted procedures if you want.

I really just want a public option government offers to all citizens. then you let insurance compete on a more wide open field in the additional or premium space.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124671 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 12:36 am to
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i'm gonna assume you mean on the "paycheck" side of things, for yourself, that it doesn't matter a whole bunch...
No I mean access as well as payment.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:16 am to
Repeal and Replace isn't repeal.

I want a FULL repeal. That is what I voted for. Repeal the whole gawd damn thing and start over. I'm behind no bill in which government is still involved in doing nothing but F us over even further. They can't fix it, so get the freak out of the way and let it fix itself. If the free-market can't fix it then so be it.

Our healthcare system will pop in 10 years anyhow. In some places it truly already has. The care is so horrible you are better off buying some weed from a seller and smoking away your problems.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27362 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 8:36 am to
Define "Trump's DOJ."

Is it also "Trump's CIA" and "Trump's NSA" and "Trump's FBI"

I don't think so.
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 9:11 am to
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i sure hope those that drop their coverage voluntarily have a ton of money to pay their own way for their bumps and bruises, or god forbid, chronic disease state... hope they don't NOT pay, which only shifts their costs onto those who do have insurance and pay their hospital bills (which only furthers the exorbitant health care costs, in this never ending cycle)...


What the hell do you think was happening BEFORE the obamacare shite sandwich? I have extremely good employer provided insurances (health, dental, vision, etc.) and even that was affected by those "with no health insurance" prior to that crap. Only then it was miniscule compared to now.

However, it was NOT affected with the absolute bullshite mandates that are unfortunately in place now JUST so the sha'queefa, kwanzetta, kwanzell, and tre'vons of society can continue to STILL get free healthcare because they STILL do not want to work and STILL won't pay for THEIR OWN crap!

obamacare was/is nothing but another completely useless burden on productive Americans in order to drag this country into the ghettos and become another detroit, chicago, etc. it has basically doubled, tripled, or even quadrupled the costs for actual working people that have health insurance just so the dregs of society can continue to be dregs.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26492 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 9:16 am to
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The looming repeal of Obamacare

...IMHO is a smokescreen for something far more sinister, such as planning an all out war with N. Korea or Iran or some other rogue state.

Nothing is ever as simplistic as it seems in Washington.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26492 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 9:18 am to
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sha'queefa, kwanzetta, kwanzell

you must really hate black people
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 9:20 am to
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you must really hate black people



no, just you
Posted by KoachKletus
Member since Jan 2015
1102 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 9:33 am to
If it was a true democratic election, then Hillary would be your president.

As for health care, I'm all for single payer. Eliminate the middle man. No matter how you slice it we will always have that segment of society which we prop up. Yup, the freeloaders. If we move to a complete free market we will still be paying for the freeloaders that use the emergency room for every zit and sniffle.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/15/17 at 9:44 am to
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Define "Trump's DOJ." 
His appointed AG and his appointed Deputy AG, who appointed the special counsel that you call a conspiracy.
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