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re: To those who think Solo is Grossly Overpaid

Posted on 7/8/17 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 1:39 pm to
How is a bargain deal saying a player is overpaid? LOL

So you dont know squat about NBA and you cant read. Good job.

Posted by P bean
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 1:44 pm to
NBA makes bank. New salary cap has made it even crazier. Figure it out. Ive said it repeatedly. Stars make 30 million a year plus.

Servicable players make 10-15 million a year.

Backups who play 10 minutes make 5-10 million year.

Barely making it players/d leaguers who get called up get the minimum.

You just cant admit that you dont know what youre talking about.

12 million a year for a player is not star money. It is in football though, if youre not a QB. Go back to saints talk Earl, where you are at least somewhat informed/knowledgeable. LOL
This post was edited on 7/8/17 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 1:51 pm to
We get it, you think all contracts are equal. Dumbass
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 1:55 pm to
LOL. All contracts are equal? Yeh, sure thats what I said.........

This keeps getting funnier and funnier.
Posted by mr brightside
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 2:48 pm to
Lester you crack me up bro

And I tend to agree with you on most things
This post was edited on 7/8/17 at 2:49 pm
Posted by htran90
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 3:37 pm to
Lin is a good player getting paid 12mil = good value
Hill is an okay player getting paid 12mil = bad value

easy as that. continue on boys
Posted by Number 31
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

It's only year 1 into his contract, so you can't close the book on him. Year 1 it's a bad contract. $12m per for "3 & D".. you may get the D but you're not getting the 3

These numbers were through 3/8/17 through 65 games, per Ginsberg

He shot 34% on corner 3s when league avg is 39% from the corner (76 attempts). Career 36% from there in 187 attempts to that point

93% of his 3PA were classified as open or wide open, he his 33% of those shots

Hill took 61 three pointers with at least 15 seconds left on the shot clock, making 20 of them (32.8%)


You can find the threads, i was all over the Hill signing; thought it was great. I love what he adds to the culture of the team and his relentless hustle, but if I have to sit through 41 games at the blender and watch him clank wide open 3s. He's overpaid and has to be better, I'm sure he would agree with that

Cunningham for the bulk of his career shot under 20% from 3. Then last season, he shot nearly 40%.

I just hope that whatever they did with DC to make him a reliable 3pt shooter they're doing with Solo, and next year he'll shoot somewhere in the 38-40% range.

It's his career 38% fg % (including all shots) that makes me skeptical or at best cautiously optimistic.

He not only needs to get better from downtown, he needs to learn how to finish.

What blows my mind is that if he has the athleticism to be a plus defender, why is it he can't use that same athleticism to make an open (or mildly contested) layup?

I could live with 34-35% on 3pt shots if he could pump fake, get the defender off his feet and drive to the rim with authority, either finishing himself or dishing to one of our stud big men should their guy abandon them to stop his drive.

That's an awful lot of improvement to make over one summer. But hey, stranger things have happened. Cautious optimism...
This post was edited on 7/8/17 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 5:32 pm to
That's exactly what you are saying you are just too fricking dumb to realize it
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 5:42 pm to
Dante Cunningham takes 75% of his 3P from the corner, and all of them are assisted. Kudos to him for improving and at least getting that shot down. You can tell he worked hard on the corner 3 (while still being a poor FT shooter). One of his good qualities is knowing what shot he can take.

But outside of that, he isn't very successful from other spots on the perimeter and he cannot create his own offense. On top of being a poor rebounder for 6'8" 230. He probably only gets 25 mpg on our team and a few others in the NBA

Not much of that has to do with Solo, but if he can at least hit the corner and WIDE OPEN 3 efficiently he would probably be worth a few more Ws.
Posted by P bean
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 5:43 pm to
LOL. What a retard. Harden just signed himself an extension that will pay him 46 million in the last year of the deal. He is a superstar.

That is not the same as a 12 million contract for Solo or J Lin.

Youre a fricking clown. LOL. Sorry youre too stupid to read or figure it out.
Posted by tgr4ever
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 5:43 pm to
Idk if this has been posted yet but I thought it was interesting

Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 5:47 pm to
Glad it took you a 30mil dollar discrepancy for you to understand not all contracts are equal
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 5:49 pm to
Lin is a good player on offense. Bad on def. plays approximately 25 mins a game or so. So 12 million is a cheap deal.

Solo is a good player on defense. Bad on offense. So he got 12 million. Plays a tad under 30 mins a game. Ya'll just refuse to get it.

Shumpert is like Solo. Good on def, bad on offense. He is in the same pay range. Also plays 25 mins a game. Only scores 7 a game but plays great defense.

Its really not that difficult to understand. Theyre all servicable players with flaws.

Harden, curry, etc are getting 40 million a year these days. Theyre superstars.

12 million doesnt get you a superstar. Especially not with the new cap. Ya'll are like 20 years behind in payscale. Maybe in the 90's the best players got 12 million a year. Those days are long gone.
Posted by P bean
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 5:52 pm to
Stop trolling Earl. LOL. You are cracking me up. All contracts are equal! You said that! You did! Blah blah blah.

If I said all contracts are equal then you clearly said that Solo is awesome and underpaid. LOL
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 5:56 pm to
Good post tgr4ever. Kidd Gilcrest is actually a comparison I made. Great def and no offense. He's getting 13 million a year.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 5:56 pm to
Now Evan Turner at 17.5m, that's grossly overpaid. It could be much much worse
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

Now Evan Turner at 17.5m, that's grossly overpaid. It could be much much worse
James Johnson too. 4 yr/60 million for a 30 year old whos only had one good season in the NBA. Yikes
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72336 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 6:08 pm to
Beany CHA invested 2nd overall pick on MKG and really had no choice to extend him on the rookie extension. Not to mention the guy has 17, 15, and two 14 PER seasons

What we have in Hill is, NOP chose to go after him in an open market, one in which many said did not have suitors for Hill, especially at 12 per. This is a guy they chose to go out and help AD to make this team formidable. Guy put up an 8 PER last season w/ a 12 as a career high.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 6:25 pm to
agreed that Kidd Gilcrest is better than Solo, but we are talking about a player who puts up 9pts 7 rebs a game. He is paid 13 million for his defense.

Solo is paid for his defense. It is what it is. I would rather have Kidd Gilcrest for 13 than Solo for 12. But the point being made is that NBA players get paid high and that is far from bigtime money. That's why serviceable players make a lot. Shumpert is a great example. His PER is 9.

I listed allen crabbe also. His per is 11. He is getting 18 million a year.

Bismak Biyombo gets 17 million. His per is 12

Rivers is 11, fwiw, since his name was brought up.

This post was edited on 7/8/17 at 6:25 pm
Posted by P bean
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 6:26 pm to
Turner is bad. Agreed
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