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Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:22 pm to Mo Jeaux
I am consistently astounded by how little attention this actual epidemic garners. Eight people died on account of terrorists in London a few weeks ago. That story demanded the attention of just about everyone for the span of a few days. Silently, people are dying left and right as a result of the opiod epidemic. More still are struggling - on a daily basis - with addiction. It is crazy how little this issue is discussed. It is not a sexy story but it is something that a lot of people are going to have to deal with going forward. I think that monetary interests - i.e., big Pharma - likely impact the frequency - or lack thereof - with which we discuss this problem.
I just finished reading The Power of the Dog and The Cartel, so I may a bit conspiracy-theory ish.
I just finished reading The Power of the Dog and The Cartel, so I may a bit conspiracy-theory ish.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:22 pm to SidewalkDawg
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Legalize it all
No. I'm all for legalizing weed, but legalizing hard drugs like crack, heroin, and meth won't make them free. The people on these drugs are typically not hard working people. They will still kill and steal to support the habit whether it's legal or not.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:22 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Big difference being that ODs are self inflicted. No one who dies from them is truly innocent.
Don't get me wrong, the victims share the blame for certain. What enrages me to a great degree is how too often these stats and stories are kept at a general level. That, like you said, it's just a dirty people problem and not a larger issue.
Guns kill people due to crime and those who don't want their neighborhoods affected (the well off) get their voice. Those same well off aren't affected as much by this is my guess, so its out of sight out of mind.
What will it take? Hunch is if 30 kids of congressman died it would be all out war.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:23 pm to Devil_doge
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Back home, when the DEA started cracking down on doctors overprescribing narcotic painkillers, a lot of doctors started fearing that their medical licenses would be suspended so they cut many of their patients off completely instead of weaning them off slowly.
This is a problem as well. Many people who legitimately need the meds are prescribed meds that aren't strong enough or they're told to just take tylenol.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:23 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Big difference being that ODs are self inflicted.
My issue is people are getting hooked on it from it being perscribed to them. These are people that never abused drugs before. People with families and careers.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:23 pm to HogBalls
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Overdosing is trashy...
I love the OT.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:24 pm to Sao
Big Deal.
While many addicts are just your common drugie, a good portion of those addicts did not start off with the intent to use illegal drugs. Often people go to a doctor for legitimate pain. The doctors prescribe heavy doses of opioids that are being pushed to them through Big Pharm. The doctor gets a kick back in the process. Win Win for those 2.
However the patient is usually the loser in this situation. Sure, their pain may go away. But one month of prescription opioids can easily turn you into an addict. You'll go back to the doctor who will write you a new prescription time and time again. Soon, the prescription isn't enough and you look for alternatives.
Ive seen lives close to ruined from this scenario.
While many addicts are just your common drugie, a good portion of those addicts did not start off with the intent to use illegal drugs. Often people go to a doctor for legitimate pain. The doctors prescribe heavy doses of opioids that are being pushed to them through Big Pharm. The doctor gets a kick back in the process. Win Win for those 2.
However the patient is usually the loser in this situation. Sure, their pain may go away. But one month of prescription opioids can easily turn you into an addict. You'll go back to the doctor who will write you a new prescription time and time again. Soon, the prescription isn't enough and you look for alternatives.
Ive seen lives close to ruined from this scenario.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:24 pm to Mo Jeaux
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There's always at least one in these types of threads.
But its the truth.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:25 pm to Sao
It's called bribery.
I mean lobbying. My bad.
I mean lobbying. My bad.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:25 pm to Sao
I have seen or heard about it impacting families that don't seem to have other contributing factors. It's nasty stuff.
I've also seen people turn their lives around after getting off the drug. Hopefully people get the resources they need.
I've also seen people turn their lives around after getting off the drug. Hopefully people get the resources they need.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:25 pm to upgrayedd
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This is a problem as well. Many people who legitimately need the meds are prescribed meds that aren't strong enough or they're told to just take tylenol.
I hate this. Broke my ankle in a horse fall - "here's your Tylenol."
All we are doing is making the cartels in Mexico rich.
We also need to figure out why so many need opium, amphetamines, etc. to feel better about themselves.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:26 pm to The Mick
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I'm no big pharma advocate but big pharma isn't hiding fentanyl inside Xanax, heroin, etc.
No they are just pushing pain killers through doctors to every single patient possible regardless of side effects or actual need. Which leads to addiction. Then they abruptly stop those prescriptions.Which leads to the desperate search for other means.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:26 pm to chasmania
Shut up, heather/yogagirl
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:26 pm to upgrayedd
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This is a problem as well. Many people who legitimately need the meds are prescribed meds that aren't strong enough or they're told to just take tylenol.
Exactly. My wife is a nurse and had a patient come in for a legitimate fractured ankle and all the doctor gave the guy was a 30 day supply of Tramadol and 400mg Motrin.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:26 pm to Sao
Saving alot of tax dollars.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:28 pm to Breesus
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No they are just pushing pain killers through doctors to every single patient possible regardless of side effects or actual need. Which leads to addiction. Which leads to other means when the prescriptions stop.
This. But, we also ignore over prescribing antibiotics, which is just as bad.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:28 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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I couldn't care less about junkies OD'ing.
Spoken like a true unaffected, head in the sand know-nothing loud mouthed idiot.
ETA: At least you used "couldn't care less" correctly. Maybe there is hope for your IQ score.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:30 pm to tigerbutt
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Saving alot of tax dollars.
To spend on that War On Drugs we've all read good things about I suppose.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:32 pm to pjab
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I've also seen people turn their lives around after getting off the drug. Hopefully people get the resources they need.
My sister went down this rabbit hole. Luckily she was saved when she was arrested due to the incredibly effective drug court system that our county implemented in the early 2000s.
A lot of counties and states in the US can't run a separate court system used strictly for drug cases and rehabilitation because the funding for it simply isn't there. If the government started giving federal grants out to states and counties to stand up a drug court system that focuses on rehabilitating addicts instead of just locking them up, we would see a decline in addiction and overdose deaths.
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