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Ward vs. Kovalev 2
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:15 pm
Anybody looking forward to this. First fight was good. I got Ward winning a close fight.
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:17 pm to suavecito80
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Anybody looking forward to this
Me
quote:Yes and Kovalev got robbed
First fight was good
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I got Ward winning a close fight.
Same but this time he wins legitimately
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:43 pm to Marciano1
I guess it is just me and you man.... 
Being a boxing fan can be lonely. Anyway, I don't think he got robbed it was a close fight IMO.
Being a boxing fan can be lonely. Anyway, I don't think he got robbed it was a close fight IMO.Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:50 pm to suavecito80
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I don't think he got robbed it was a close fight IMO.
It was close but there is no way someone can tell me Andre Ward won 7 rounds in that fight. No way. Therefore, it's a robbery.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:51 pm to suavecito80
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This should be another good one. I think Ward takes it too.
This should be another good one. I think Ward takes it too.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:58 pm to Marciano1
Krusher will leave no doubt this time.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:04 pm to Marciano1
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It was close but there is no way someone can tell me Andre Ward won 7 rounds in that fight. No way. Therefore, it's a robbery.
Looking at the compubox numbers Kovalev was the busier fighter but Ward was the more accurate fighter. Unless we're saying the numbers were fudged I don't think it's that outrageous as I thought back then.
Maybe we're letting that second round knockdown have a bigger influence than it should. Once that round was over Ward outlanded Kovalev in 6 of the next 10 rounds and landed a higher percentage in all of them. I think it's fair to say he won AT LEAST 6 of those rounds. Going by the compubox numbers I just judged it 114-113 Ward.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:08 pm to Marciano1
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Kovalev got robbed
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:13 pm to Goldrush25
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Looking at the compubox numbers Kovalev was the busier fighter but Ward was the more accurate fighter. Unless we're saying the numbers were fudged I don't think it's that outrageous as I thought back then.
Maybe we're letting that second round knockdown have a bigger influence than it should. Once that round was over Ward outlanded Kovalev in 6 of the next 10 rounds and landed a higher percentage in all of them. I think it's fair to say he won AT LEAST 6 of those rounds.
Punch stats in a Ward fight are irrelevant because so many of his shots are while he's bear hugging and trying to molest his opponent. Ward ate Kovalev's jab for nearly 1/2 of the fight, plus got dropped. His only good stretch was between 7-10 if I remember correctly. Even the last two rounds were up in the air, with most giving them to Kovalev.
I had it 8-4 or 7-5 + the knockdown. Clear Kovalev victory.
That said, Ward is disciplined and Kovalev seems pissed off going into this rematch. I see this being a good fight early on and then turning into a snoozer as Ward clinches his way to a decision.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:16 pm to Marciano1
If punch stats are irrelevant in judging this fight then it becomes a completely subjective exercise.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:19 pm to suavecito80
Damn, forgot this was this weekend. Im in Vegas so might try to go.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:39 pm to Goldrush25
How I feel pretty much. A knockdown is only one point. I didn't see Kov dominate so much to call a robbery. A robbery to miss is Chocolatito's last fight. I almost kicked a damn puppy after that. 
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:49 pm to suavecito80
quote:Nah man. We've just had a couple threads on this fight before this one where we shared our opinions.
I guess it is just me and you man.... Being a boxing fan can be lonely. Anyway, I don't think he got robbed it was a close fight IMO.
It is a shame that they aren't generating nearly as much interest as that Floyd/Conor shitshow. I'm super excited about this fight. These guys showed pretty good chemistry last time. It may be that Ward has solved Kovalev and will make this one a boring fight. It may also be that Ward didn't actually solve Kovalev but Kovalev just got tired. On the 24/7 show he and his trainers claimed that he overtrained. I'm not sure how true that is but if Kovalev is able to stay on his toes and control the distance with that battering ram of a jab, he may be able to amass enough points to get the decision this time.
I also happen to think Kovalev won the last fight but I didn't view it as a "robbery" as some did. I saw it as a really close one that I viewed in favor of Kovalev but could understand an either/or round going to Ward instead.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:51 pm to dj30
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Damn, forgot this was this weekend.
That's because of Andre Ward and Roc Nation. They are horrible at promoting events.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 4:27 pm to Marciano1
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That's because of Andre Ward and Roc Nation. They are horrible at promoting events.
Now this I agree with 1000%. It feels like Jay Z decided to start promoting fighters because he is either bored or has enough money to throw away.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 5:28 pm to suavecito80
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It feels like Jay Z decided to start promoting fighters because he is either bored or has enough money to throw away.
They are about to fold. I think all Roc Nation has left is Ward and Rigondeaux now that Cotto has bailed on them.
Jay Z quickly found out that promoting a boxing event is not all that easy.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:15 pm to Marciano1
There aren't a lot of promotions on very stable footing. Golden Boy's entire income is based on Canelo. If he craters, they fold. I think their financials came out somewhere because of a lawsuit or something and really showed how dependant they are on the ginger.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:17 pm to Jamohn
Ward will win again, not much different to the last 8 rounds or so of the first fight.
Kovalev is very good, but Ward could've been one of the greats, I just think he fricked his career up a little bit .
People will say "Bullsh**, he's had a great career!" But I think he had been more active, he would've gone from strength to strength.
Kovalev is very good, but Ward could've been one of the greats, I just think he fricked his career up a little bit .
People will say "Bullsh**, he's had a great career!" But I think he had been more active, he would've gone from strength to strength.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:20 am to suavecito80
Yeah I agree on the robbery aspect, close fights don't fall in that category for me. Ward was landing some sneaky good body shots for 3/4 of the fight.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 12:25 am to Marciano1
this is the fight that soured me towards boxing kovalev won that fight for sure. then my fiancee goes and ordres the shite for my birhtday present lol so now i got to watch it.
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