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re: How convienient it is about Jordan
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:53 pm to shel311
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:53 pm to shel311
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Both Spurs teams, 2015 and 2016 GS...all statistically better than any team MJ faced. The only argument otherwise is just your "feeling" if you will.
Anybody's opinion on the matter is their "feeling"
How many times have we seen a team on paper get blown out by an "underdog"? It happens all the time in every sport
Stats don't prove anything despite what you may think. They are useful and shed light on things you may not pick up on but that's it.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:27 pm to Weagle25
quote:Yes, and one can be backed by data, and the other cannot. Would you agree with that?
Anybody's opinion on the matter is their "feeling"
quote:In the NBA playoffs...very rarely. Almost never when you add "blown out"
How many times have we seen a team on paper get blown out by an "underdog"? It happens all the time in every sport
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:55 pm to Weagle25
quote:Well they are far more useful than using our subjective observations and memory.
Stats don't prove anything despite what you may think. They are useful and shed light on things you may not pick up on but that's it.
He is an interesting stat. LeBron played 5 games in the current finals (1-4) and Jordan played 5 games in the 91 finals against Lakers (4-1). They both had a 29.4 game score average, which puts then in the top 5 for a finals series. Standardizing it to 48 minutes, LeBron averaged a 33.3 game score compared to Jordan's 32.7.
The thing is, the Bulls had a collective game score average of 88.3 while the Cavs had a collective average of 77. So subtracting Jordan and LeBron's contributions, and standardizing it to 48 minutes per player, the LeBron's teammates had an average game score of 11.6 whole Jordan's teammates had an average of 13.1.
This means, on average, LeBron provided 2.9 times more value than his teammates while Jordan provided 2.5 times more value than his.
So clearly the difference wasn't that Jordan played better than Lebron, it's that Jordan's teammates played significantly better than LeBron's (plus the Warriors being the greatest team of all time).
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