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Dems to submit alternate plan to Trumps ATC proposal. H.R. 2800
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:14 pm
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The Aviation Funding Stability Act of 2017 would help ensure investments in the U.S. aviation system are not subject to Congressional dysfunction and would streamline the acquisition of NextGen technology, equipment certification, and ATC management.
Key provisions include:
Provide the FAA with mandatory spending authority in order to maintain stable, predictable FAA funding.
Ensure that revenues collected from flying passengers (i.e. ticket taxes) are invested in the aviation system. Beginning October 1, Trust Fund revenues and uncommitted cash balance are immediately available to be invested in the aviation system. These funds are not subject to appropriation, budget sequestration, or any directive of the Office of Management and Budget – the funds are off budget. In addition, the bill authorizes such sums as necessary from the General Fund for FAA Operations to address any possible shortfall in Trust Fund revenues, and it exempts any General Fund share from sequestration.
Require top-to-bottom reforms of the FAA’s personnel and procurement systems.
In 1995 and 1996, Congress exempted the FAA from government-wide personnel and procurement rules. But the Department of Transportation Inspector General has often reported that the FAA has not taken full advantage of these reforms, leading to delays and cost overruns in modernization programs and low workforce productivity. The bill requires the FAA to develop a streamlined procurement system that is up to the task of governing high-tech, high-value acquisitions in NextGen technology. It also requires the FAA to update its personnel management system to provide incentives for good performance, among other things. With these reforms, the FAA will be able to institute personnel and procurement reform.
Elevate the role of the FAA Management Advisory Council (MAC), a government-industry panel that advises the FAA Administrator on strategic issues facing the FAA.
The bill requires the Administrator to respond in writing to each recommendation of the MAC with respect to management of the air traffic control system within 90 days of receipt. If the Administrator disagrees with the recommendation, the Administrator must explain his or her rationale. If the Administrator agrees with the recommendation, the Administrator’s response must include a timeline for implementation.
Removes bureaucratic barriers within the FAA.
The bill directs the agency to cross-utilize staff across disciplines wherever feasible and to break down internal silos so employees can freely share ideas, and so that offices can better collaborate and coordinate with one another in managing complex tasks like certifying new airliner designs and running the air traffic control system. Authorize funds to rebuild and modernize aging air traffic control facilities across the United States.
The bill authorizes the FAA to use the uncommitted balance of the Airport and Airway Trust Fund to rebuild, modernize, and sustain air traffic control facilities.
Larsen, Transportation Democrats Introduce Legislation to Reject Trump Plan to Privatize Air Traffic Control, Accelerate NextGen Reforms
Full disclosure, I am an FAA employee, and am not completely against the privatization effort, but only in regards to funding and implementation.
However, my concerns outweigh the perceived net gain.
I believe that safety will no longer be a baseline, and I do not agree with the idea of handing over facilities and equipment paid for by the American people to a Board of Trustees run by corporate entities and unions.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:16 pm to Remote Controlled
Are you a controller?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:21 pm to flyAU
Technical Operations.
Started as a Radar Tech, now I'm a NAS Ops Manager at a Service Ops Center.
Started as a Radar Tech, now I'm a NAS Ops Manager at a Service Ops Center.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:23 pm to Remote Controlled
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I believe that safety will no longer be a baseline
I do. They can be run just like railroads. Railroads have dispatch centers all over the nation. They are all run by railroad employees as far as I know. However, there are FRA people there basically looking over their shoulders observing things. I see the FAA still having a large part on the safety angle in the same manner.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:25 pm to Remote Controlled
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rebuild and modernize aging air traffic control facilities across the United States
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:28 pm to Remote Controlled
Being that the dems don't know how to intro anything good, much less without pork in it, what's the catch?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:40 pm to Homesick Tiger
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They can be run just like railroads. Railroads have dispatch centers all over the nation. They are all run by railroad employees as far as I know. However, there are FRA people there basically looking over their shoulders observing things. I see the FAA still having a large part on the safety angle in the same manner.
I appreciate your argument, but we're talking about flying tubes filled with hundreds of people, traveling at 500 mph, in a three dimensional space.
A massive three dimensional space if you're talking the US Airspace.
Trains travel on tracks, in a known space, with a much better idea of where they are headed in a space and time.
It's an apples and oranges argument.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:43 pm to Remote Controlled
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Started as a Radar Tech, now I'm a NAS Ops Manager at a Service Ops Center.
Good, I think someone has to have something wrong with them to want to work ATC.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:45 pm to flyAU
Yep, it's enough to have to deal with them on a daily basis.
I'd hate to actually be one.
I'd hate to actually be one.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:47 pm to Remote Controlled
You mean dems do something other than whine about Trump?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:49 pm to Remote Controlled
The biggest risk is that GA gets dicked via user fees. I would love to see less than 5 miles in trail any time there is a cloud along J75, though. Any time NATCA, ATA and the Majors get together, it never turns out well for Joe Cessna Driver.
Safety is a baseline in the sense that the entity that is damaged the most by a fatal is the airline involved (not withstanding the actual passengers that are killed). You don't have to trust their intentions as long as you understand what they have to lose.
Safety is a baseline in the sense that the entity that is damaged the most by a fatal is the airline involved (not withstanding the actual passengers that are killed). You don't have to trust their intentions as long as you understand what they have to lose.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:55 pm to Remote Controlled
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A massive three dimensional space if you're talking the US Airspace.
I appreciate your argument but running down a railroad track at 70 mph in a blinding fog not know if some gasoline tanker or some log truck is hung-up on the next crossing you might be coming too is pretty frightful in itself.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:02 pm to Tesla
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You don't have to trust their intentions as long as you understand what they have to lose.
You also have to understand that certain entities are willing to "toe the line" when it comes to profit margins.
They'll push it until something happens, and then pull back.
Personally, I have a zero tolerance when it comes to safety. It's safe, or I have failed. it was ingrained in me in the Navy, and the FAA has only solidified that thinking.
As it stands now the NAS is very safe, (knock on wood), in regards to IFR traffic. VFR is up to the guy behind the stick.
Also, you're right, the VFR guys will absolutely get fricked in privatization.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:07 pm to Homesick Tiger
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I appreciate your argument but running down a railroad track at 70 mph in a blinding fog not know if some gasoline tanker or some log truck is hung-up on the next crossing you might be coming too is pretty frightful in itself.
Agreed, but it's still apples and oranges.
If a train hits a logging truck, it's a tragedy, and it creates a log jam for shipping.
If two fully loaded 757s collide in mid air, 500 people die, people question flying, the economy is affected on a micro level, with a ripple effect, etc.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:24 pm to Remote Controlled
quote:Not sure how you can come to this conclusion.
I believe that safety will no longer be a baseline,
Safety is always the number one priority when it comes to air traffic control regardless of private sector control or government control.
I would rather it be in the hands of the people. I do not trust our government.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:03 pm to ChexMix
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I would rather it be in the hands of the people.
It is in the hands of the people.
Some of you guys are far too wrapped up in "gubmint" histrionics.
The FAAs track record is stellar.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:05 pm to flyAU
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Good, I think someone has to have something wrong with them to want to work ATC
Why? It's an easy (most of the time) fun job with great benefits, good pay, lots of time off, early retirement, work doesn't come home with you, can work all over the country, etc
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I'd hate to actually be one
I believe now is when I request your presence at the mutually nearest Sonic for you to gaze upon my knuckles.
Baw
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:12 pm to DevilDogTiger
You mother frickers would talk to Mexican radio if it wasn't for us.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:14 pm to Remote Controlled
Canada basically did what Trump is proposing and it has worked well for them. Many other countries have done it. Why would we be unable to do it safely like the others?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:15 pm to DevilDogTiger
Agree that User Fees are bad news for General Aviation. GA is critical to the business of America. User fees would encourage GAs not to call ATC. This would put them into conflict with other traffic more often.
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